My proposal for new clan war system

There are several problems I want to solve with my new system. Farming, dodging, camping, and creating new clans at the end of the season are what I want to fix.

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In my proposed system, each season will be 3 months long like they are now. The season will be divided into 3 main phases. The qualifier phase, the candidate tournament, and the championship phase.

Qualifier
Duration: First 2 months of the season. First 8 weeks.

During this phase, it will be the same as we have now. Clans will cw whoever they want and compete to get the highest elo.

Candidate Tournament
Duration: Week 9-11 of the season.

At the start of the 3rd month, several important things will happen.
1. The clan with the highest elo becomes the Point Leader
2. There will be a candidates tournament where qualifying clans will compete to be able to challenge the Point Leader to a championship playoff.

The candidates tournament will be a double elimination, bracketed tournament that is best of 5. If you don't know what a double elimination tournament is, it's one with a loser bracket like this.

The winner of the candidates will go compete with the Point Leader for 1st and 2nd place in the season. The runner-up will either win 3rd or 2nd place in the season.

Now, there will be many ways for clans to qualify for the candidates tournament.

• 2nd to 5th
  
• Most CW played qualify
  
• Clans with over 100 CW played qualify
  
• Mod Team Wildcard **
  

** The Mod Team is allowed to select one coalition that did not qualify for the candidates tournament and have them compete as a wildcard. This is done so that the mod team can qualify any clan they deem as deserving to play who did not qualify.

There will potentially be many other ways we could add to qualify for the candidates tournament. Here are some that comes to mind.

• The 1st place seasonal elo dueler's clan
  
• Clans with over 1100 elo
  

The winner of the candidates tournament becomes the Challenger to the Point Leader

Championship
Duration: Last week of season. (Can be extended into next season if clan needs extra time)

In this phase, the winner of the candidate tournament and the Point Leader play 10 games to determine who will win the season. Each win equals one point. The team with the highest point wins the season. A tie of 5-5 points is considered a win for the Point Leader. If the Point Leader wins the championship then they get 1st place, the Challenger wins 2nd, and the Runner Up wins 3rd place for the season.

If the Challenger beats the Point Leader, the Challenger wins 1st place for the season. The Point Leader will now have to play a best of 5 vs the Runner Up of the candidates tournament to determine who gets 2nd or 3rd place in the season.


End Notes
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Some notes about this system:
During the final 2 phases, clans are still free to cw for fun,practice, or sp if they want to. However, their elo won't have any effects. The winner of the season must win the tournament.

There is a huge incentive to be 1st place in elo at the end of the Qualifier because the 1st place clan is not required to participate in the candidates tournament and they guarantee themselves at least 2nd place. They can just wait for the winner of the tournament to challenge them. They can still cw for fun,practice,sp while the candidates is taking place. They could participate in the tournament if they want, but if they are knocked out early, they don't get their guaranteed 2nd place.

The management of the candidates tournament and the championship will be done by the supporter/mod team.
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Here is how this system addresses all the problems I stated earlier in the video
Farming
Farming will no longer be the only thing that wins you the season. Yes, there is an advantage to being first at the end of the qualifier, but you have to defend yourself in the championship. There are also many other ways to qualify for the candidates tournament. You don't have to have the highest of elo to qualify.

Dodging
Dodging is going to be pointless because you will eventually have to play another clan to defend your place during the tournament or the championship. You can dodge during the qualifier, but you can't go the entire season dodging one clan. In addition, the mod-team can add a wildcard team to compete in the candidates if they feel they have been unfairly dodged.

Camping
There's no longer camping 1st place by some elo lead and winning the season. If you want to win, you need to play the championship to win. Even if you camped the qualifier so you can get the Point Leader position, you HAVE to play during the championship.

Creating new clans at the end of the season
Any clans created during the last month of the season have missed out on the season and must wait until the next season to compete.
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The advantage of this system is that you can adjust the conditions to qualify for the candidates tournament in order to make the season fairer. It could be tweaked to be easier/harder to qualify depending on the circumstances. This is only a proposal and many changes can be made about it. I decided to make this a separate thread so that people can discuss it separately.
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Too much to read, as long as people can dodge the hacker clan (mirage) I'm fine with ur idea.

Activity is already low and this system makes elitism a must if you want to have a chance. Wish there was dislike button for those kind of suggestions. We need quantity over quality, new people, more people.

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:05

We need quantity over quality, new people, more people.

You can qualify for the tournament by just spamming cws. You can literally just play without a care for 2 months, get all your games in, then start taking it seriously.

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 03.06.2021 at 13:07

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:05

We need quantity over quality, new people, more people.

You can qualify for the tournament by just spamming cws. You can literally just play without a care for 2 months, get all your games in, then start taking it seriously.

Yes using noob guys just for their activity and then abandon them, i don't like using people.

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:09

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 03.06.2021 at 13:07

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:05

We need quantity over quality, new people, more people.

You can qualify for the tournament by just spamming cws. You can literally just play without a care for 2 months, get all your games in, then start taking it seriously.

Yes using noob guys just for their activity and then abandon them, i don't like using people.

Well guess what JUGERS, the strongest clan with the strongest players deserve to win the season. At some point you need quality over quantity.

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 03.06.2021 at 13:10

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:09

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 03.06.2021 at 13:07

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:05

We need quantity over quality, new people, more people.

You can qualify for the tournament by just spamming cws. You can literally just play without a care for 2 months, get all your games in, then start taking it seriously.

Yes using noob guys just for their activity and then abandon them, i don't like using people.

Well guess what JUGERS, the strongest clan with the strongest players deserve to win the season. At some point you need quality over quantity.

Guess what if everyone introduced no more than 1 player each season to competitive you wouldn't get accused because you played same clan and same people 10 times last day.

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:05

Activity is already low and this system makes elitism a must if you want to have a chance. Wish there was dislike button for those kind of suggestions. We need quantity over quality, new people, more people.

I mean the actual season is the same thing, last week of the season no clans is playing with their lowranks if they want to win the season lol, maybe 5-7 years ago but not anymore lol.

Написано от Froyer, 03.06.2021 at 13:13

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:05

Activity is already low and this system makes elitism a must if you want to have a chance. Wish there was dislike button for those kind of suggestions. We need quantity over quality, new people, more people.

I mean the actual season is the same thing, last week of the season no clans is playing with their lowranks if they want to win the season lol, maybe 5-7 years ago but not anymore lol.

5-7 years ago state of the game was better, consequence? I don't think so.

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:14

Написано от Froyer, 03.06.2021 at 13:13

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:05

Activity is already low and this system makes elitism a must if you want to have a chance. Wish there was dislike button for those kind of suggestions. We need quantity over quality, new people, more people.

I mean the actual season is the same thing, last week of the season no clans is playing with their lowranks if they want to win the season lol, maybe 5-7 years ago but not anymore lol.

5-7 years ago state of the game was better, consequence? I don't think so.

Not sure if 5-7 years ago the game was better maybe more friendly to lowranks but it was easier to become good too, right now 2015 players skills are 1200/1300 elo level at best (just watch videos)

Написано от Froyer, 03.06.2021 at 13:20

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:14

Написано от Froyer, 03.06.2021 at 13:13

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:05

Activity is already low and this system makes elitism a must if you want to have a chance. Wish there was dislike button for those kind of suggestions. We need quantity over quality, new people, more people.

I mean the actual season is the same thing, last week of the season no clans is playing with their lowranks if they want to win the season lol, maybe 5-7 years ago but not anymore lol.

5-7 years ago state of the game was better, consequence? I don't think so.

Not sure if 5-7 years ago the game was better maybe more friendly to lowranks but it was easier to become good too, right now 2015 players skills are 1200/1300 elo level at best (just watch videos)

Yes activity wise and welcoming wise, froyer let's be honest you still play because of Kogi and his clan, everyone has same story, everyone had a Kogi.

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 03.06.2021 at 12:56

There are several problems I want to solve with my new system. Farming, dodging, camping, and creating new clans at the end of the season are what I want to fix.

=============================================================================================
In my proposed system, each season will be 3 months long like they are now. The season will be divided into 3 main phases. The qualifier phase, the candidate tournament, and the championship phase.

Qualifier
Duration: First 2 months of the season. First 8 weeks.

During this phase, it will be the same as we have now. Clans will cw whoever they want and compete to get the highest elo.

Candidate Tournament
Duration: Week 9-11 of the season.

At the start of the 3rd month, several important things will happen.
1. The clan with the highest elo becomes the Point Leader
2. There will be a candidates tournament where qualifying clans will compete to be able to challenge the Point Leader to a championship playoff.

The candidates tournament will be a double elimination, bracketed tournament that is best of 5. If you don't know what a double elimination tournament is, it's one with a loser bracket like this.

The winner of the candidates will go compete with the Point Leader for 1st and 2nd place in the season. The runner-up will either win 3rd or 2nd place in the season.

Now, there will be many ways for clans to qualify for the candidates tournament.

• 2nd to 5th
  
• Most CW played qualify
  
• Clans with over 100 CW played qualify
  
• Mod Team Wildcard **
  

** The Mod Team is allowed to select one coalition that did not qualify for the candidates tournament and have them compete as a wildcard. This is done so that the mod team can qualify any clan they deem as deserving to play who did not qualify.

There will potentially be many other ways we could add to qualify for the candidates tournament. Here are some that comes to mind.

• The 1st place seasonal elo dueler's clan
  
• Clans with over 1100 elo
  

The winner of the candidates tournament becomes the Challenger to the Point Leader

Championship
Duration: Last week of season. (Can be extended into next season if clan needs extra time)

In this phase, the winner of the candidate tournament and the Point Leader play 10 games to determine who will win the season. Each win equals one point. The team with the highest point wins the season. A tie of 5-5 points is considered a win for the Point Leader. If the Point Leader wins the championship then they get 1st place, the Challenger wins 2nd, and the Runner Up wins 3rd place for the season.

If the Challenger beats the Point Leader, the Challenger wins 1st place for the season. The Point Leader will now have to play a best of 5 vs the Runner Up of the candidates tournament to determine who gets 2nd or 3rd place in the season.


End Notes
=============================================================================================
Some notes about this system:
During the final 2 phases, clans are still free to cw for fun,practice, or sp if they want to. However, their elo won't have any effects. The winner of the season must win the tournament.

There is a huge incentive to be 1st place in elo at the end of the Qualifier because the 1st place clan is not required to participate in the candidates tournament and they guarantee themselves at least 2nd place. They can just wait for the winner of the tournament to challenge them. They can still cw for fun,practice,sp while the candidates is taking place. They could participate in the tournament if they want, but if they are knocked out early, they don't get their guaranteed 2nd place.

The management of the candidates tournament and the championship will be done by the supporter/mod team.
=============================================================================================
Here is how this system addresses all the problems I stated earlier in the video
Farming
Farming will no longer be the only thing that wins you the season. Yes, there is an advantage to being first at the end of the qualifier, but you have to defend yourself in the championship. There are also many other ways to qualify for the candidates tournament. You don't have to have the highest of elo to qualify.

Dodging
Dodging is going to be pointless because you will eventually have to play another clan to defend your place during the tournament or the championship. You can dodge during the qualifier, but you can't go the entire season dodging one clan. In addition, the mod-team can add a wildcard team to compete in the candidates if they feel they have been unfairly dodged.

Camping
There's no longer camping 1st place by some elo lead and winning the season. If you want to win, you need to play the championship to win. Even if you camped the qualifier so you can get the Point Leader position, you HAVE to play during the championship.

Creating new clans at the end of the season
Any clans created during the last month of the season have missed out on the season and must wait until the next season to compete.
=============================================================================================

The advantage of this system is that you can adjust the conditions to qualify for the candidates tournament in order to make the season fairer. It could be tweaked to be easier/harder to qualify depending on the circumstances. This is only a proposal and many changes can be made about it. I decided to make this a separate thread so that people can discuss it separately.
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All this sounds good, but can't even happen cause already bosniaks and ships dodging Hellenism!

Написано от Bella Ciao, 03.06.2021 at 13:25

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 03.06.2021 at 12:56

All this sounds good, but can't even happen cause already bosniaks and ships dodging Hellenism!

Don't worry, with this system there are many ways to qualify for the tournament if you get dodged. This is only a proposal, we could add more ways to qualify for the tournament so you can qualify even if you get dodged.

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:22

Написано от Froyer, 03.06.2021 at 13:20

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:14

Написано от Froyer, 03.06.2021 at 13:13

Написано от JUGERS2, 03.06.2021 at 13:05

Yes activity wise and welcoming wise, froyer let's be honest you still play because of Kogi and his clan, everyone has same story, everyone had a Kogi.

Kogi bought me prem so yeah I could keep playing because I had kogi, but I played most of my cws as a lowrank in a lowrank clan (elites) not with kogi because grom was benching me, then I changed clans every 1-2 months with better players till I join mk a top tier clan when I was r9, so it's not really kogi, I kept playing and became good cuz I was clan hopping and learning from everyone lol

This system is perfect. It has full spicer support and must be implemented

Abuses the system... then proposes a "fix" for the system...
witch "the typical mod" doctor heh

not surprised by the upvoters either hehe
got your typical xbugz fanboys upvoting this thread huh>

I like it, since the 2 first month are the same and after that it gets challenging.

Don't imply a lot of coding.

Solve many problems we have now and actually bring something new

We could potentially vote at some point on the best solution, we can test stuff tbh

The important part is to move forward imo

In my opinion, this kinda feels like a material for good tournament, and not an actual official competetive system. It will drastically decrease cw activity in the last month, leaving only these cws to be played and prepared for, because elo won't be affected. Clans that are not invited into these play-offs would just not be active at all.
I get your point, at the end the best remain and win, but you can't so elitist to kill 33% of the season for the remaining clans/players. Not to talk about that when invited clans leave the play-offs, they would just be inactive aswell.

Agreed with Pavle just like Pavle your idea is also bad, " Elite 1 clan to rule them all ".
this is not DOTA2, LEAGUE OF LEGENDS , CSGO , FORTNITE or any other game where you implement Group stages however a mini tourney can be conducted in between the season just like Croat did.

Написано от Bella Ciao, 03.06.2021 at 13:25

All this sounds good, but can't even happen cause already bosniaks and ships dodging Hellenism!

rent free

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 03.06.2021 at 13:29

Написано от Bella Ciao, 03.06.2021 at 13:25

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 03.06.2021 at 12:56

All this sounds good, but can't even happen cause already bosniaks and ships dodging Hellenism!

Don't worry, with this system there are many ways to qualify for the tournament if you get dodged. This is only a proposal, we could add more ways to qualify for the tournament so you can qualify even if you get dodged.

Best way to qualify is if you're bff with majority of moderators.

Написано от Black Swans, 04.06.2021 at 08:24

Написано от Bella Ciao, 03.06.2021 at 13:25

All this sounds good, but can't even happen cause already bosniaks and ships dodging Hellenism!

rent free

u forgot how many times i raped you D

Написано от Bella Ciao, 04.06.2021 at 08:46

Написано от Black Swans, 04.06.2021 at 08:24

Написано от Bella Ciao, 03.06.2021 at 13:25

All this sounds good, but can't even happen cause already bosniaks and ships dodging Hellenism!

rent free

u forgot how many times i raped you D

i didn't screenshot it as a win or a loss i posted it as a proof that you lie and mention me everywhere for no reason

Написано от Black Swans, 04.06.2021 at 09:16

Написано от Bella Ciao, 04.06.2021 at 08:46

Написано от Black Swans, 04.06.2021 at 08:24

Написано от Bella Ciao, 03.06.2021 at 13:25

All this sounds good, but can't even happen cause already bosniaks and ships dodging Hellenism!

rent free

u forgot how many times i raped you D

i didn't screenshot it as a win or a loss i posted it as a proof that you lie and mention me everywhere for no reason

Bojnak ur team player before 2 days said that
We don't cw hellen
But I wrote this before 1 day we played last night..

Написано от Bella Ciao, 04.06.2021 at 10:50

Написано от Black Swans, 04.06.2021 at 09:16

Написано от Bella Ciao, 04.06.2021 at 08:46

Написано от Black Swans, 04.06.2021 at 08:24

Написано от Bella Ciao, 03.06.2021 at 13:25

All this sounds good, but can't even happen cause already bosniaks and ships dodging Hellenism!

rent free

u forgot how many times i raped you D

i didn't screenshot it as a win or a loss i posted it as a proof that you lie and mention me everywhere for no reason

Bojnak ur team player before 2 days said that
We don't cw hellen
But I wrote this before 1 day we played last night..

Please don't derail the topic

Написано от turkic dog, 03.06.2021 at 13:01

Too much to read, as long as people can dodge the hacker clan (mirage) I'm fine with ur idea.

Please.... just stop
I don't know if this is a joke or not but its just horrible seeing "funny" comments like these from you in every thread. Just stop. It isn't funny and never will be. Just shut the fuck up please; your comments add no substance to this topic, let alone help the game in any manner.

I understand that one needs to poke fun once in a while, but you've been saying things like this since forever. Just stop, get off the keyboard and go for a walk.

Please stop, forever.

I like this system WD, I think its very well thought out and I appreciate the effort.

As for people saying it will cut activity, what stops people from cwing during the championship? even though other clans have no chance of winning, they still can compete for fun, extra PC and SP (since its clanwars), awards for pcs like "the most cws", and more practice in general. Clans that dont qualify for candidates or clans that dont qualify for the championship can play even more now, since the elo risk is removed.