For all you patriotic fantasizers

For those of you fantasizing about wars. Go fight for your country, then come back home

Just please, make sure you dont force everyone else to come with you (kinda what having a government does)

Написано от Unleashed, 10.07.2015 at 12:10

For those of you fantasizing about wars. Go fight for your country, then come back home

Just please, make sure you dont force everyone else to come with you (kinda what having a government does)

War is inevitable. They happened as nomads, they happened as tribes, they happened as empires and barbarian wanderers, they happened between families in blood feuds, they happened between states and empires, they happened between lords and barons under feudalism, they happened between cultures and ideals, they happen ever single day when someone wants something that someone else has, they happen across the animal kingdom. Nature is war.

A territory of anarchism would be more violent and bloody than an ordered state. States and nations do not fail peacefully and they never will. In that vacuum, power struggles erupt and another state is formed. Governments are inevitable. Anarchy is violent and temporary. Hierarchy is in our DNA. Someone will either rule you or you will rule them.

There are butchers and there are meat, shepherd's and sheep, predator and prey. There is no third option in the game of power, there is only the will to enforce or be forced upon.

In regard to veterans. Modern states treat them like garbage. A proper state would treat them as heroes and care for them as they deserve. That failure to take care of armed, trained disciplined men will one day lead to their downfall, just as it did in Iraq. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

Написано от Tik-Tok, 10.07.2015 at 12:46

War is inevitable. They happened as nomads, they happened as tribes, they happened as empires and barbarian wanderers, they happened between families in blood feuds, they happened between states and empires, they happened between lords and barons under feudalism, they happened between cultures and ideals, they happen ever single day when someone wants something that someone else has, they happen across the animal kingdom. Nature is war.

A territory of anarchism would be more violent and bloody than an ordered state. States and nations do not fail peacefully and they never will. In that vacuum, power struggles erupt and another state is formed. Governments are inevitable. Anarchy is violent and temporary. Hierarchy is in our DNA. Someone will either rule you or you will rule them.

There are butchers and there are meat, shepherd's and sheep, predator and prey. There is no third option in the game of power, there is only the will to enforce or be forced upon.

Then why you nazis complain and invent history so much? Why you just dont accept that Nazism lost from stronger opponent, it was crushed in world war never to return.

It tried to take over the world, it failed. Get over it.

Написано от Tik-Tok, 10.07.2015 at 12:46

There are butchers and there are meat
shepherd's and sheep, nazis and Tik.
In the game of power, the one that matters its ME!

Написано от Skanderbeg, 10.07.2015 at 14:19

Why you just dont accept that Nazism lost from stronger opponent, it was crushed in world war never to return.

It tried to take over the world, it failed. Get over it.

Communism literally collapsed on its fucking own, and you are complaining about ideologies that had to fight the entire world while being bombed to fucking dust? if my question is not simple enough:

-Germany, USSR and all the other nations of the world are climbing a hill, the first country to reach the top of the hill will become a superpower.
-Germany is fast and it climbs at an alarming rate so all of the nations below it start to pull germany down, germany is strong so it keeps going up, then out of nowhere UK appears in top of the HIll (with USA Help) and hits Germany in the head with a big rock, germany falls and dies.
-Meanwhile, USSR is a fat ugly creature that fell because the rope couldn't handle his weight

Написано от Tundy, 10.07.2015 at 17:48

Написано от Skanderbeg, 10.07.2015 at 14:19

Why you just dont accept that Nazism lost from stronger opponent, it was crushed in world war never to return.

It tried to take over the world, it failed. Get over it.

Communism literally collapsed on its fucking own, and you are complaining about ideologies that had to fight the entire world while being bombed to fucking dust? if my question is not simple enough:

-Germany, USSR and all the other nations of the world are climbing a hill, the first country to reach the top of the hill will become a superpower.
-Germany is fast and it climbs at an alarming rate so all of the nations below it start to pull germany down, germany is strong so it keeps going up, then out of nowhere UK appears in top of the HIll (with USA Help) and hits Germany in the head with a big rock, germany falls and dies.
-Meanwhile, USSR is a fat ugly creature that fell because the rope couldn't handle his weight

Lol this made my day

Написано от Unleashed, 10.07.2015 at 12:10

-snip-

Are you crazy? What does supporting the state and its military have anything to do with supporting war?

The point of having an army is that you don't get into situations where you need one. Deterrence.

Or that's what I think, anyways.

Написано от International, 11.07.2015 at 02:25

Написано от Unleashed, 10.07.2015 at 12:10

-snip-

The point of having an army is that you don't get into situations where you need one. Deterrence.

Or that's what I think, anyways.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Написано от Tundy, 10.07.2015 at 17:48

Communism literally collapsed on its fucking own, and you are complaining about ideologies that had to fight the entire world while being bombed to fucking dust? if my question is not simple enough:

See, you complain again. 'whole world bombed me to dust' lol, of course they did, you declared war on them, what did you expect, to drop candy on you? No boy mcoy, when you start war, expect war and dont make excuses for losing, you had 6 years to prepare and NO ONE FORCED YOU TO START A WAR. Next time dont play war with the big boys.

Nazism collapsed in war, which is way worse and collapsed 100%. Communism had 50% collapsed, Warsaw Pact and USSR, but other 50% still live: China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba.

USSR had 300 million population and strong military. It was a superpower. Today, Red China have 1,3 billion population, strong military and soon will obtain superpower status. That mean Communism created 2 superpowers in 50 years, Capitalism got only 1 by now, and Nazism none

Написано от Tundy, 10.07.2015 at 17:48

-Germany, USSR and all the other nations of the world are climbing a hill, the first country to reach the top of the hill will become a superpower.
-Germany is fast and it climbs at an alarming rate so all of the nations below it start to pull germany down, germany is strong so it keeps going up, then out of nowhere UK appears in top of the HIll (with USA Help) and hits Germany in the head with a big rock, germany falls and dies.
-Meanwhile, USSR is a fat ugly creature that fell because the rope couldn't handle his weight

wrong, distorted history by nazis apparently.

- USA, USSR climbing the hill
- Nazi Germany start WW2 to kill USA and USSR and win king of hill
- USA and USSR beat the sh*t out of Nazi Germany

I dont remember United States and Soviet Union waging war. Cold War never turned hot. Thats how superpowers who think, use information(and sadly propaganda) fight, not in open war where civilians suffer and die. Thats why nazis fail horribly, they start wars and lose then make million of excuses and still claim they are superior, stronger and right.

Написано от Tik-Tok, 10.07.2015 at 12:46

Написано от Unleashed, 10.07.2015 at 12:10

War is inevitable. They happened as nomads, they happened as tribes, they happened as empires and barbarian wanderers, they happened between families in blood feuds, they happened between states and empires, they happened between lords and barons under feudalism, they happened between cultures and ideals, they happen ever single day when someone wants something that someone else has, they happen across the animal kingdom. Nature is war.

A territory of anarchism would be more violent and bloody than an ordered state. States and nations do not fail peacefully and they never will. In that vacuum, power struggles erupt and another state is formed. Governments are inevitable. Anarchy is violent and temporary. Hierarchy is in our DNA. Someone will either rule you or you will rule them.

There are butchers and there are meat, shepherd's and sheep, predator and prey. There is no third option in the game of power, there is only the will to enforce or be forced upon.

In regard to veterans. Modern states treat them like garbage. A proper state would treat them as heroes and care for them as they deserve. That failure to take care of armed, trained disciplined men will one day lead to their downfall, just as it did in Iraq. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

Great com.

Same sad story about war veterans happening in Croatia...

Написано от Skanderbeg, 10.07.2015 at 14:19

Then why you nazis complain and invent history so much? Why you just dont accept that Nazism lost from stronger opponent, it was crushed in world war never to return.

It tried to take over the world, it failed. Get over it.

Dull. History was re written and Fascism is vilified because it is the only ideology that has any chance of opposing current global hierarchies seeking to create an idiocratic globe of porn addicted morons obsessed with entertainment while in total isolation.

Fascism seeks to give opportunity to all people to seek their interests. We are not afraid of our fellow strong man. Your kind are terrified of them.

Написано от Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 11:00

Dull. History was re written and Fascism is vilified because it is the only ideology that has any chance of opposing current global hierarchies seeking to create an idiocratic globe of porn addicted morons obsessed with entertainment while in total isolation.

Fascism seeks to give opportunity to all people to seek their interests. We are not afraid of our fellow strong man. Your kind are terrified of them.

Jedi's reaction on this.........

Написано от Skanderbeg, 11.07.2015 at 04:49

but other 50% still live: China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba.

Today, Red China have 1,3 billion population, strong military and soon will obtain superpower status.

China's stock market just crashed. They lost trillions and will likely never recover. Don't get me wrong, the USA will follow suit eventually but at least the US hasn't poisoned their fresh water like China which will no longer have ANY fresh water supply within 30 years.

China is doomed. Communism is dead. Rome will burn and the barbarians are coming...

Написано от Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 11:00

Dull. History was re written and Fascism is vilified because it is the only ideology that has any chance of opposing current global hierarchies seeking to create an idiocratic globe of porn addicted morons obsessed with entertainment while in total isolation.

Fascism seeks to give opportunity to all people to seek their interests. We are not afraid of our fellow strong man. Your kind are terrified of them.

It is true Liberalism and Individualism created problems but you dont fix them with Totalitarian ideologies like Fascism and Nazism. With that you can only start world war where you will lose again and 50 years later new nazi generation cry how nazis were good guys but lost from evil small ethnic group which control the planet earth, andromeda galaxy and universe one quarter.

Написано от Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 13:48

China's stock market just crashed. They lost trillions and will likely never recover. Don't get me wrong, the USA will follow suit eventually but at least the US hasn't poisoned their fresh water like China which will no longer have ANY fresh water supply within 30 years.

China is doomed. Communism is dead. Rome will burn and the barbarians are coming...

First jump and then say yippie ki yay. China still didnt collapse.

Chinese stock market worth was artificial and didnt reflect real Chinese economy. It was natural to burst, China expected it. Now, 50% reduced it reflects real economy and GDP and China continues to grow 7%.

Its not actually the China itself, its more about Western investitors and creditors who pour money into China thus making it strong, diverse and growing. If Westerners withdraw their investition China wouldnt be that strong.

Is it greed that drives the Westerners, who cares. Until they keep sending money to China its all good, apparently Communism attract Capitalists and their money. They make alot of profit, China gets jobs, everyone wins.

I find it odd that our two fascist supporters keep dodging the main issue.

The fascist countries started the Second World War through their reckless expansionism, not the democratic and/or (officially) communist powers.

Not to mention: the ideology of fascism put a stop to more democratic elections in its 100-year history than the communist ideology did in its entire 150-year history.

Написано от International, 11.07.2015 at 22:20

The fascist countries started the Second World War through their reckless expansionism, not the democratic and/or (officially) communist powers.

>DEMOCRATIC POWERS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

the imperialistic and aristocratic British empire and Le good old dictator Stalin defending the democracy of Europe from legally elected chancellor Hitler who just happened to overthrow the Imperialistic French empire and countless of monarchies in Europe (Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Yugoslavia, Greece)


>Communism democratic

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
1 party rule is not democracy

Написано от Tundy, 11.07.2015 at 23:03

>DEMOCRATIC POWERS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

the imperialistic and aristocratic British empire and Le good old dictator Stalin defending the democracy of Europe from legally elected chancellor Hitler who just happened to overthrow the Imperialistic French empire and countless of monarchies in Europe (Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Yugoslavia, Greece)

There we go! Now you've answered the critical question.

But just a point: Czechoslovakia?

Написано от Tundy, 11.07.2015 at 23:03

>Communism democratic

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
1 party rule is not democracy

Never said it was. All democratic communist regimes existed after WWII.
Czechoslovakia (two years, before the communists decided to cancel democracy), and
Chile (four years, before the communist president got ousted)
come to mind.

Написано от International, 11.07.2015 at 23:20

Czechoslovakia (two years, before the communists decided to cancel democracy)

I can't talk about Czechoslovakia, because i am not well documented into it. But if you give me a few days, perhaps i could come up with a proper answer.

Написано от International, 11.07.2015 at 23:20

Chile (four years, before the communist president got ousted)

There was no guarantee that he was going to leave office once his term ended, and we will never know (history is sometimes cruel). Presidential-Dictatorships are not uncommon in latin america.

Написано от Tundy, 11.07.2015 at 23:47

I can't talk about Czechoslovakia, because i am not well documented into it. But if you give me a few days, perhaps i could come up with a proper answer.

I'll summarize really quickly.

In 1946, the Czechoslovak Communist Party "won" the general elections (which was, by all accounts, free and unbiased), becoming the ruling political party in Czechoslovakia.

Then this happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Czechoslovak_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

Possibly the second largest tragedy in Czechoslovak history.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK,WHATS GOOD ON THIS EARTH?

Democracy("photoshoped")

Democracy(real)