[Fixed]Lack of bonus spawn --warning

Not sure if this was intentional, but after the server reset the admins did we appear to not get bonus spawn.

My ss (I normally would get 4 spawn @kharkiv vs turk and normal 3vs3 picks)


And Acies' ss (normally would be 9 or even 10)

Lost duel because of it.

Can i also get back my lost elo?
PS Innate faggot

I lost the duel the same way vs him xD

Is this only a ukr thing or... ?

Not only ukr has lack of reinf

Написано от Permamuted, 10.02.2016 at 12:30

Is this only a ukr thing or... ?

in cw xeno matched ukr reinf so it too was lacking reinf

How soon till this gets fixed?....

We already know that it doesn't affect other countries , Volga is affected with Ukrain. Don't know about others

Написано от Buffalo Soldier, 10.02.2016 at 12:19

Lost duel because of it.

Can i also get back my lost elo?
PS Innate faggot

Innate > buff

Gg

Написано от AlBoZzZ, 10.02.2016 at 18:30

Innate < buff

Gg

fixed

We've lowered the bonus by 30% as a trial run to see if this would help minimizing the late join rushes.

Написано от Amok, 11.02.2016 at 03:05

We've lowered the bonus by 30% as a trial run to see if this would help minimizing the late join rushes.

This has altered gameplay to the worse more than the better. Now lower reinforcement countries such as Ukraine, Poland, Taiwan, USA: South etc won't be as strong, and once more stacking strats will be favored (because larger countries are more expensive and will need a cheap strat such as PD) and your SM/MoS/DS will be less important. If possible, I'd suggest making it so the spawn is lowered by 30% after joining on say, t5 or so. If you can keep the t1 spawn at least intact that would be great.

Написано от The Tactician, 11.02.2016 at 03:10

Написано от Amok, 11.02.2016 at 03:05

We've lowered the bonus by 30% as a trial run to see if this would help minimizing the late join rushes.

This has altered gameplay to the worse more than the better. Now lower reinforcement countries such as Ukraine, Poland, Taiwan, USA: South etc won't be as strong, and once more stacking strats will be favored (because larger countries are more expensive and will need a cheap strat such as PD) and your SM/MoS/DS will be less important. If possible, I'd suggest making it so the spawn is lowered by 30% after joining on say, t5 or so. If you can keep the t1 spawn at least intact that would be great.

Sounds reasonable, everyone else agrees?

Написано от Amok, 11.02.2016 at 03:37

Sounds reasonable, everyone else agrees?

Definitely, and I'm not even sure changing it was good in the first place. Late joining is fun. Why make it harder again? Was there some large outcry for this adjustment I'm not aware of?

This change also changed several official games, CW's and duels. It shifted the balance, and as Tact said, this was a change for the worse.

Написано от Amok, 11.02.2016 at 03:37

Написано от The Tactician, 11.02.2016 at 03:10

Написано от Amok, 11.02.2016 at 03:05

We've lowered the bonus by 30% as a trial run to see if this would help minimizing the late join rushes.

This has altered gameplay to the worse more than the better. Now lower reinforcement countries such as Ukraine, Poland, Taiwan, USA: South etc won't be as strong, and once more stacking strats will be favored (because larger countries are more expensive and will need a cheap strat such as PD) and your SM/MoS/DS will be less important. If possible, I'd suggest making it so the spawn is lowered by 30% after joining on say, t5 or so. If you can keep the t1 spawn at least intact that would be great.

Sounds reasonable, everyone else agrees?

definitely.

Написано от Amok, 11.02.2016 at 03:05

We've lowered the bonus by 30% as a trial run to see if this would help minimizing the late join rushes.

Late join rushes are usually not much of a problem. Serious games with non large amounts of money and usually latejoin turned off aren't affected too much at all. I'd second comments about game balance.
After t5 may be too short to give players a good chance at starting off early in a world game which is what latejoin intends. I'd suggest making it more like t9. Either way it doesn't affect balance anymore so it's fine by me.

I think uballancing some country vs. country things, especially in the most competing map in game (best example: Ukraine vs. Turkey which we were making balanced sooo long) is more bad then it is good because of reducing bonus for latejoiners.

The Tactician's suggestion is perfect for both

OK, the bonus is now only lowered for late-joiners at turns 5+

Написано от Amok, 11.02.2016 at 05:30

OK, the bonus is now only lowered for late-joiners at turns 5+

Any chances you guys can log those changes somewhere?

Sometimes things changes and we only notice it when we're already playing...

Late join is only a problem in noob host games, it should anyway be put at 0 by default
Cheers