Why is incest wrong?

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:45

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:39

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:36

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:33

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:27

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Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:15

but that is a false comparison cuz heroine is harmful
incest lesbian sex isnt harmful

Sex is one of the ways diseases are transmitted. It is ludicrous to argue that sex is without risk.

what if we start on the assumption
disease free
lesbian
twin sisters

Ok go ahead and prove that them having sex is a thing they should do.

if they want to sex they can sex all they want cuz it benefits both individuals without harming others

What benefits?

they are both sexually gratified

Ok that's your hypothesis, now where is your hard hitting data research to prove it?
This is how science works, if you want to make the claim "incest is okay," you need to prove it.

why do i have to justify the fact that sex gives off pleasure

Then don't. You're at the same credibility level as claiming the Earth is flat right now. No evidence from both.

Now lets assume somehow, you managed to collect enough case studies, statistics, and experiments to support your hypothesis.
The next step is to prove how your hypothesis (which you still haven't proven) is applicable to the real world. How many cases of twin sister have sex while both being infertile are there? What areas of the world is having issues with this? How will your hypothesis have an impact on decision making and economics of this?

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:53

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:45

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:39

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:36

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:33

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:27

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:23

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:19

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:17

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:15

but that is a false comparison cuz heroine is harmful
incest lesbian sex isnt harmful

Sex is one of the ways diseases are transmitted. It is ludicrous to argue that sex is without risk.

what if we start on the assumption
disease free
lesbian
twin sisters

Ok go ahead and prove that them having sex is a thing they should do.

if they want to sex they can sex all they want cuz it benefits both individuals without harming others

What benefits?

they are both sexually gratified

Ok that's your hypothesis, now where is your hard hitting data research to prove it?
This is how science works, if you want to make the claim "incest is okay," you need to prove it.

why do i have to justify the fact that sex gives off pleasure

Then don't. You're at the same credibility level as claiming the Earth is flat right now. No evidence from both.

Now lets assume somehow, you managed to collect enough case studies, statistics, and experiments to support your hypothesis.
The next step is to prove how your hypothesis (which you still haven't proven) is applicable to the real world. How many cases of twin sister have sex while both being infertile are there? What areas of the world is having issues with this? How will your hypothesis have an impact on decision making and economics of this?

but im arguing the morality of incest between lesbian twins

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:56

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:53

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:45

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:39

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:36

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:33

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:27

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:23

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:19

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 19:17

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 19:15

but that is a false comparison cuz heroine is harmful
incest lesbian sex isnt harmful

Sex is one of the ways diseases are transmitted. It is ludicrous to argue that sex is without risk.

what if we start on the assumption
disease free
lesbian
twin sisters

Ok go ahead and prove that them having sex is a thing they should do.

if they want to sex they can sex all they want cuz it benefits both individuals without harming others

What benefits?

they are both sexually gratified

Ok that's your hypothesis, now where is your hard hitting data research to prove it?
This is how science works, if you want to make the claim "incest is okay," you need to prove it.

why do i have to justify the fact that sex gives off pleasure

Then don't. You're at the same credibility level as claiming the Earth is flat right now. No evidence from both.

Now lets assume somehow, you managed to collect enough case studies, statistics, and experiments to support your hypothesis.
The next step is to prove how your hypothesis (which you still haven't proven) is applicable to the real world. How many cases of twin sister have sex while both being infertile are there? What areas of the world is having issues with this? How will your hypothesis have an impact on decision making and economics of this?

but im arguing the morality of incest between lesbian twins

cool, but from a scientific standpoint, there is little to no benefits to infertile twins having sex.

Also regarding WHY you need to prove sex gives pleasure. I'm referring to you proving that infertile twins having sex gives a benefit. You're trying to make a claim into an unexplored area of science. Here is why you need to prove it.

From all the current understanding of biology and physiology:
a. Humans are hard wired to copulated with those of the opposite sex.
b. Humans are hard wired to avoid copulation with family members. To be more specific, when we grow up, our brain developes in a way that prevent us from finding our siblings/parents attractive.
c. Humans are hard wired to prefer mates who are different than them to promote genetic diversity. Having sex with your twin goes against this.

You need to prove that despite going against all these animal behaviors hard wired into us, that sex between infertile twins gives pleasure. You can't just assume it does based on what we know about sex now because you decided to pick such a niche point to argue. You would also need specific case studies of actual twins and if possible, infertile twins who had incest to cite as part of your evidence. You would also have to justify why the positives of them having sex outweigh the risks such as transmittance of disease and bodily injury as a result of sex. Afterwards, you would need to prove that their behavior is not harmful to society. It doesn't matter if it is moral or not, you need to prove it does not harm the society they live in.

Come back when you have your 100 page PHD dissertation on this boywind.

How can anyone get trolled by boywind like this

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 20:05

cool, but from a scientific standpoint, there is little to no benefits to infertile twins having sex.

Also regarding WHY you need to prove sex gives pleasure. I'm referring to you proving that infertile twins having sex gives a benefit. You're trying to make a claim into an unexplored area of science. Here is why you need to prove it.

From all the current understanding of biology and physiology:
a. Humans are hard wired to copulated with those of the opposite sex.
b. Humans are hard wired to avoid copulation with family members. To be more specific, when we grow up, our brain developes in a way that prevent us from finding our siblings/parents attractive.
c. Humans are hard wired to prefer mates who are different than them to promote genetic diversity. Having sex with your twin goes against this.

You need to prove that despite going against all these animal behaviors hard wired into us, that sex between infertile twins gives pleasure. You can't just assume it does based on what we know about sex now because you decided to pick such a niche point to argue. You would also need specific case studies of actual twins and if possible, infertile twins who had incest to cite as part of your evidence. You would also have to justify why the positives of them having sex outweigh the risks such as transmittance of disease and bodily injury as a result of sex. Afterwards, you would need to prove that their behavior is not harmful to society. It doesn't matter if it is moral or not, you need to prove it does not harm the society they live in.

Come back when you have your 100 page PHD dissertation on this boywind.

i think it is pointless to provide a detailed scientific study in order to prove that sex between infertile twins give pleasure because we are operating on a local case within these assumptions/parameters that i have presented:

1. sex between twin lesbians can give pleasure
2. both individuals have no diseases
3. both individuals are not affected by the westermarck effect
4. both individuals want to have sex
5. society isn't affected by the private actions of these individuals

furthermore, just because it has no benefits in a scientific point of view, doesn't necessary make it wrong. for example, playing atwar isn't necessary for us, yet we play it anyway.

i am a philosophy and psychology double major. i know a lot already thank you very much.

Boywind doesn't need to have a PhD to propose a thought experiment, nor does he need to prove that there's any benefit to lesbian incest sex. That kind of sexual activity is one of our society's deepest taboos, and he's well within his rights to ask if there're any solid foundations for that taboo. The problem of course--which I've already demonstrated above--is that not all, but certainly many progressives are uncomfortable following their ideas to their necessary ends. Boywind isn't afraid of those ends. Consequently, there's nothing you can say to him that would demonstrate the immorality of incest, unless you first discard the assumption that consent is the only appropriate metric in forming judgements about sexual behavior.

I agree with Boywind. Witch-Doctor base arguement that diverse-outside family sex Is benifital to evolution is understandable. Everyone needs to leave his nest and progress and increasing options must go on. But that kind of sexual activity has nothing to do with survival and evolution. Furthemore I will go on and say that even if these two sisters wanted to live together and adopt a child It would be ok. We have reached this era of evolution when human survival is beyond our control. There are billions of us and all our efforts to survive are managed by governments and corps we know nothing about. Traditional marriage will not save you from war or apocalypses. Therefore there is no reason to disregard our human will and ambition for happy and honest life.

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 02:11

Why is it wrong for two twin sisters who are both infertile to have sex



CHECKMATE ATHIESTS

sounds like you have a hard on for your sister....
in all fairness i think that is disgusting but if 2 people consent
its only a matter of opinion if its wrong or right.
wrong is only a point of view and
a point of view is usually a bi product of how you are raised
and the society your in, for example
jews cut their sons dicks at 8 days old end everyone celebrates that
african tribes do other things to their bodies like chiseling their teeth or extending their neck
or sending their young boys to jump off a tower with a vine bungee cord resulting often in death.
opinions are like assholes,
everyone has one
and no one wants to admit theirs stinks.

Написано от boywind2, 19.09.2018 at 21:07

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 19.09.2018 at 20:05

cool, but from a scientific standpoint, there is little to no benefits to infertile twins having sex.

Also regarding WHY you need to prove sex gives pleasure. I'm referring to you proving that infertile twins having sex gives a benefit. You're trying to make a claim into an unexplored area of science. Here is why you need to prove it.

From all the current understanding of biology and physiology:
a. Humans are hard wired to copulated with those of the opposite sex.
b. Humans are hard wired to avoid copulation with family members. To be more specific, when we grow up, our brain developes in a way that prevent us from finding our siblings/parents attractive.
c. Humans are hard wired to prefer mates who are different than them to promote genetic diversity. Having sex with your twin goes against this.

You need to prove that despite going against all these animal behaviors hard wired into us, that sex between infertile twins gives pleasure. You can't just assume it does based on what we know about sex now because you decided to pick such a niche point to argue. You would also need specific case studies of actual twins and if possible, infertile twins who had incest to cite as part of your evidence. You would also have to justify why the positives of them having sex outweigh the risks such as transmittance of disease and bodily injury as a result of sex. Afterwards, you would need to prove that their behavior is not harmful to society. It doesn't matter if it is moral or not, you need to prove it does not harm the society they live in.

Come back when you have your 100 page PHD dissertation on this boywind.

i think it is pointless to provide a detailed scientific study in order to prove that sex between infertile twins give pleasure because we are operating on a local case within these assumptions/parameters that i have presented:

1. sex between twin lesbians can give pleasure
2. both individuals have no diseases
3. both individuals are not affected by the westermarck effect
4. both individuals want to have sex
5. society isn't affected by the private actions of these individuals

furthermore, just because it has no benefits in a scientific point of view, doesn't necessary make it wrong. for example, playing atwar isn't necessary for us, yet we play it anyway.

i am a philosophy and psychology double major. i know a lot already
thank you very much.

There is no morality involved in science. I can confidently say that this issue is so niche that you'll be lucky to find even a handful of cases like this. Even then they will be breed out of the population for obvious reasons.

Написано от Acquiesce, 19.09.2018 at 21:25

Boywind doesn't need to have a PhD to propose a thought experiment, nor does he need to prove that there's any benefit to lesbian incest sex. That kind of sexual activity is one of our society's deepest taboos, and he's well within his rights to ask if there're any solid foundations for that taboo. The problem of course--which I've already demonstrated above--is that not all, but certainly many progressives are uncomfortable following their ideas to their necessary ends. Boywind isn't afraid of those ends. Consequently, there's nothing you can say to him that would demonstrate the immorality of incest, unless you first discard the assumption that consent is the only appropriate metric in forming judgements about sexual behavior.

I can deny the behavior using science which is why you can't simply claim consent is the only factor.

Написано от 1GodofWar1, 19.09.2018 at 23:42

sounds like you have a hard on for your sister....
in all fairness i think that is disgusting but if 2 people consent
its only a matter of opinion if its wrong or right.
wrong is only a point of view and
a point of view is usually a bi product of how you are raised
and the society your in, for example
jews cut their sons dicks at 8 days old end everyone celebrates that
african tribes do other things to their bodies like chiseling their teeth or extending their neck
or sending their young boys to jump off a tower with a vine bungee cord resulting often in death.
opinions are like assholes,
everyone has one
and no one wants to admit theirs stinks.

are u implying that morality is relative to society???
also for ur notice, my sister and i have experimented with each other in the past but now we are over it so no i dont have a hard on for my sister

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 00:23

There is no morality involved in science. I can confidently say that this issue is so niche that you'll be lucky to find even a handful of cases like this. Even then they will be breed out of the population for obvious reasons.

yes i wasnt asking a scientific question regarding the evolutionary benefits of incest lesbian sex
i was just questioning the morality of it

Написано от Acquiesce, 19.09.2018 at 21:25

Boywind doesn't need to have a PhD to propose a thought experiment, nor does he need to prove that there's any benefit to lesbian incest sex. That kind of sexual activity is one of our society's deepest taboos, and he's well within his rights to ask if there're any solid foundations for that taboo. The problem of course--which I've already demonstrated above--is that not all, but certainly many progressives are uncomfortable following their ideas to their necessary ends. Boywind isn't afraid of those ends. Consequently, there's nothing you can say to him that would demonstrate the immorality of incest, unless you first discard the assumption that consent is the only appropriate metric in forming judgements about sexual behavior.

what other metrics can conservatives form other than consent because i don't see how ur political leaning can affect ur judgement on the morality of incest lesbian sex

Rednecks love story.
Fucking your mother so you could finally have a sister/daughter whom you're gonna later fuck too when she gets in mature and legal age, which for hillbillies is around 12years old, impregnate her and thats how unicorns are made. Or a retarded child with negative IQ and 16 limbs. Take your chances !!!

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 00:24

I can deny the behavior using science which is why you can't simply claim consent is the only factor.

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 00:23

There is no morality involved in science.

Pick 1.

Написано от boywind2, 20.09.2018 at 00:53

what other metrics can conservatives form other than consent

There are many possibilities, some of which I consider reasonable, others which aren't. Examples: age, relationship between the parties, how long they've know each other, motives of the persons involved (e.g. prostitution), number of persons involved.

Написано от Acquiesce, 20.09.2018 at 07:15

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 00:24

I can deny the behavior using science which is why you can't simply claim consent is the only factor.

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 00:23

There is no morality involved in science.

Pick 1.

Why do I have to pick 1? Because some guy named acqui said so?

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 11:36

Написано от Acquiesce, 20.09.2018 at 07:15

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 00:24

I can deny the behavior using science which is why you can't simply claim consent is the only factor.

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 00:23

There is no morality involved in science.

Pick 1.

Why do I have to pick 1? Because some guy named acqui said so?

pick 1

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 11:36

Why do I have to pick 1? Because some guy named acqui said so?

Because logical consistency says so. Morality is either accessible through science or it isn't.

Написано от Acquiesce, 20.09.2018 at 12:20

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 20.09.2018 at 11:36

Why do I have to pick 1? Because some guy named acqui said so?

Because logical consistency says so. Morality is either accessible through science or it isn't.

I'm saying moralty has no impact on the results of science. However that does not means science cannot be used to judge ethicacy.

Take for example the science of euthenasia and lethal injections. There have been many studies showing that the lethal injection used by the United States causes immense pain and leaves people choking to death. This has caused european suppliers of the ingredients used in lethal injection to stopped importing to the US on ethical and possibly moral grounds.

If Witch-Doctor lets you suck his dick then you can prove to him that sex feels good.

Написано от Acquiesce, 20.09.2018 at 10:25

Написано от boywind2, 20.09.2018 at 00:53

what other metrics can conservatives form other than consent

There are many possibilities, some of which I consider reasonable, others which aren't. Examples: age, relationship between the parties, how long they've know each other, motives of the persons involved (e.g. prostitution), number of persons involved.

how can u generalize that only conservatives have the social awareness to realize that there is more to sex than consent
and how can u apply these metrics to the case of twin incest lesbian sex

Witch doctor needs to get laid

Написано от Ruse, 20.09.2018 at 14:40

Illyria incest party lol

Let's have a threesome together with Vladimir Putin

Написано от boywind2, 20.09.2018 at 13:59

how can u generalize that only conservatives have the social awareness to realize that there is more to sex than consent
and how can u apply these metrics to the case of twin incest lesbian sex

It's true, I'm making a broad generalization (as I've already admitted). It's just that when you discuss sex with lefties (or libertarians) they will claim some variation of: love is love as long as there is consent, stop judging, it's none of your business, who cares?, etc... which suggests that there isn't more to the equation than consent. Of course when you challenge that presumption and get down to the bottom it's all just hot air and they'll say obviously incest is gross but can't justify why. It's just a prejudice.