Ally faggots!

Seriously this must be stopped! I come to play Whole world game and then hole Europe+ China allied against me America.
This happened to all games,because at beggining 1 player send ally to all players and then it's not fun to play because Europe,China just expand they don't want to fight and then i loose.I can hold much and i can beat them but it's not funny and it's very hard against all of them to fight.
This option maximum allies is good but it's only for premium users and it's set to 3 ally's for maximum it's really much it should be 2 :/

I agree. Allyfagging does get very annoying. Also, 3 does seem like too much. 2 sounds much better. You can win the whole game by yourself if you are good, so there is no need for 3 alliances.

The ally limit option is pointless, if a bunch of players wish to ally fag, there is nothing to stop them from changing it to allow them to do so

but as for the op i feel your pain, however at least with all those players against you youve a good chance of winning by sp

there is nothing more rewarding then screwing over/defeating allyfags on this game.

Написано от Permamuted, 21.10.2013 at 18:07

The ally limit option is pointless, if a bunch of players wish to ally fag, there is nothing to stop them from changing it to allow them to do so

but as for the op i feel your pain, however at least with all those players against you youve a good chance of winning by sp

there is nothing more rewarding then screwing over/defeating allyfags on this game.

If this idea is implemented, we can keep them from changing the ally limit option: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=10243

Написано от Permamuted, 21.10.2013 at 18:07

The ally limit option is pointless, if a bunch of players wish to ally fag, there is nothing to stop them from changing it to allow them to do so

but as for the op i feel your pain, however at least with all those players against you youve a good chance of winning by sp

there is nothing more rewarding then screwing over/defeating allyfags on this game.

It's not as simple to hold out against a horde of these people.

Honestly, I've seen ally fags with a fair amount of coordination (I expected less from ally fags lol) but at the end of the day, when the world is bearing down on you you're bound to lose.

Nobody here really likes to say it (or they just don't feel the need to) but this game really does go down to numbers. Yes, you need good coordination and pre-planning for successful offensive campaigns and such but really the nuts and bolts of the game come down to numbers. It doesn't matter how good of a Germany PD I am when Pakistan, Japan, USA, South America, and Northern Africa and a latejoin Russia: Ural start shoving stacks of 50 units down my throat.

I had one good, big play at the time this happened- I walled them all into Ukraine as they were planning to use it as a way to poke a gap into Europa. But that's all it was- a wall. The very next turn I was left with the same 400 or so units throughout Europa and them roughly a thousand ready to attack Eastern and South Western Europe.

I could've had plenty of tactical victories, from marines attacking them behind front lines, but at this point it really doesn't matter if and how far I were to advance- it was more relevant that their advancing forces be stopped. Which was absolutely impossible at the point I was at.

Technically there is no way to counter allyfags, because they can change the number of alliances.

It is very annoying i never ally i just need 1 ally but most of time never

Well players can't learn how to play if they don't wanna fight so they will always ally because it's easy to win with 3 or more allies

Support get rid of alliances altogether!

...or just pick well your fellow players.

Написано от Columna Durruti, 22.10.2013 at 09:02

...or just pick well your fellow players.

Oh okay! Let me just strap on my good player summoner, go to good players land, and pick some good players!

Написано от Guest, 22.10.2013 at 11:24

CD is a good player You could try playing with him...

He knows, they're in the same clan

Seriously guys, if you're fed up with the allyfag situation, as TheRiddler said, please take the time to support this idea: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=10243

Написано от Xenosapien, 22.10.2013 at 09:12

Написано от Columna Durruti, 22.10.2013 at 09:02

...or just pick well your fellow players.

Oh okay! Let me just strap on my good player summoner, go to good players land, and pick some good players!

No need. Actually I was not talking about good players; rather ethical ones. Just 2-3 players you trust and the ally-fuggin' situation won't turn into a perma-tragedy.

Написано от Columna Durruti, 22.10.2013 at 14:58

Написано от Xenosapien, 22.10.2013 at 09:12

Написано от Columna Durruti, 22.10.2013 at 09:02

...or just pick well your fellow players.

Oh okay! Let me just strap on my good player summoner, go to good players land, and pick some good players!

No need. Actually I was not talking about good players; rather ethical ones. Just 2-3 players you trust and the ally-fuggin' situation won't turn into a perma-tragedy.

So was I, is not good and bad the basis of ethics?

Написано от Xenosapien, 22.10.2013 at 15:08

Написано от Columna Durruti, 22.10.2013 at 14:58

Написано от Xenosapien, 22.10.2013 at 09:12

Написано от Columna Durruti, 22.10.2013 at 09:02

...or just pick well your fellow players.

Oh okay! Let me just strap on my good player summoner, go to good players land, and pick some good players!

No need. Actually I was not talking about good players; rather ethical ones. Just 2-3 players you trust and the ally-fuggin' situation won't turn into a perma-tragedy.

So was I, is not good and bad the basis of ethics?

Not according to Nietzsche; "beyond good and evil".

A good way to counter being outnumbered is to always attack the weakest players first. Most of the time, people who ally much, are rather lower ranks. A while ago, I played as Europe and allied with a lower rank Asia and low rank Africa against a rank 10 or something America. Now people may say "hurr allyfagger, how pathetic!" But before I even was able to attack America, he already took the caps of Africa and Asia with some stealth units, and the game was practically over for me... Being outnumbered doesn't always mean being in disadvantage.

Apart from this, is allying just part of the game. If you are too proud to ally people and always only ally 1 person or something, then you shouldn't be surprised that you lose games... It's like saying a country is pathetic because it doesn't have any civil wars or something... To have good chances to win, it's just necessarily to ally people. When I play as Germany for example, it's almost already standart for me to try to ally West Europe with it, because if I have to fight with them, Russia or Turkey easily could come an finish me. After this, it really just depends on the players and the game situation.

Написано от Klabauter, 23.10.2013 at 09:27

A good way to counter being outnumbered is to always attack the weakest players first. Most of the time, people who ally much, are rather lower ranks. A while ago, I played as Europe and allied with a lower rank Asia and low rank Africa against a rank 10 or something America. Now people may say "hurr allyfagger, how pathetic!" But before I even was able to attack America, he already took the caps of Africa and Asia with some stealth units, and the game was practically over for me... Being outnumbered doesn't always mean being in disadvantage.

Yes it does, just because your allies were noobs it doesn't mean everyone is, even if you have 2 or 3 okay people against you it's a great disadvantage, basically anyone who actually walls will allyfag the fuk out of you.

Yea but allyfaggots are annoying some times if i ally its because it would be easy to win against some player.But when all players ally against you it's really boring to play not much sp you will get because only lower ranks ally and it's really stupid no one is fighting then

Don't complain much about ally fagging . If they are ally fagging I guess they are not very good.
If you want SP take everything you can in 1 turn with marines then retake again, that will give you a nice amount of SP

Hahaha thanks

Написано от Xenosapien, 23.10.2013 at 09:40

Yes it does, just because your allies were noobs it doesn't mean everyone is, even if you have 2 or 3 okay people against you it's a great disadvantage, basically anyone who actually walls will allyfag the fuk out of you.

I never said everyone would be noobs. I just gave a possibility how to counter being outnumbered and said that it isn't always unfair to be outnumbered. That it's usually bad to be outnumbered is clear... Only advice I can still give there is to not be too proud and ally enough for yourself, to prevent getting outnumbered, in the first place. However, I still made the experience that it's rather just bad players who excessively ally a lot. So, it may be annoying, but it's not really that much of a problem. For me at least...

Anyway, maximum alliances should be changeable by non-premium users, too.

Yea it should be

Написано от Klabauter, 23.10.2013 at 11:46

Написано от Xenosapien, 23.10.2013 at 09:40

Yes it does, just because your allies were noobs it doesn't mean everyone is, even if you have 2 or 3 okay people against you it's a great disadvantage, basically anyone who actually walls will allyfag the fuk out of you.

I never said everyone would be noobs. I just gave a possibility how to counter being outnumbered and said that it isn't always unfair to be outnumbered. That it's usually bad to be outnumbered is clear... Only advice I can still give there is to not be too proud and ally enough for yourself, to prevent getting outnumbered, in the first place. However, I still made the experience that it's rather just bad players who excessively ally a lot. So, it may be annoying, but it's not really that much of a problem. For me at least...

I dislike that as I feel that would be unfair on the other person left... And allying a crap person is an even worse thing to do than fighting them since they almost all the times focus on me not the other player anyway, and then my good opponent gets a big advantage and obliterates him, I then get left with a good enemy on all sides. So no, not a good idea.

Написано от Guest, 23.10.2013 at 12:29

Anyway, maximum alliances should be changeable by non-premium users, too.

Thank you.

Написано от Xenosapien, 23.10.2013 at 13:00

I dislike that as I feel that would be unfair on the other person left...

I never said you have to play unfair. What I just mean is that one shouldn't hesitate to ally enough to always stay flexible enough to not blunder into getting outnumbered (apart from if you play against noobs of course).

Написано от Xenosapien, 23.10.2013 at 13:00

And allying a crap person is an even worse thing to do than fighting them since they almost all the times focus on me not the other player anyway, and then my good opponent gets a big advantage and obliterates him, I then get left with a good enemy on all sides. So no, not a good idea.

I agree with you, that one should be careful who you ally. That's a matter of course, anyway... However, strangely first you complain about that people who ally a lot mostly will "allyfag the fuk out of you", but now you actually agree with me, that excessively allying also easily can get you into disadvantages, you know... Whatever you say man...

Написано от Klabauter, 23.10.2013 at 13:18

Написано от Xenosapien, 23.10.2013 at 13:00

I dislike that as I feel that would be unfair on the other person left...

I never said you have to play unfair. What I just mean is that one shouldn't hesitate to ally enough to always stay flexible enough to not blunder into getting outnumbered (apart from if you play against noobs of course).

Написано от Xenosapien, 23.10.2013 at 13:00

And allying a crap person is an even worse thing to do than fighting them since they almost all the times focus on me not the other player anyway, and then my good opponent gets a big advantage and obliterates him, I then get left with a good enemy on all sides. So no, not a good idea.

I agree with you, that one should be careful who you ally. That's a matter of course, anyway... However, strangely first you complain about that people who ally a lot mostly will "allyfag the fuk out of you", but now you actually agree with me, that excessively allying also easily can get you into disadvantages, you know... Whatever you say man...

I stand by it, the strength of ally faggers increases by the power of 10 the better they are. Ally fagging is only bad for you when they are at least 1/2 worse than you.

Kill the ally fags!

There are a few ways to even the playing field vs. allyfags:

1) ally with them and then backstab them
2) if feasible, have some friends latejoin to balance the odds

Написано от Grimm, 24.10.2013 at 17:55

There are a few ways to even the playing field vs. allyfags:

1) ally with them and then backstab them
2) if feasible, have some friends latejoin to balance the odds

1. They don't ally you and keep ally fagging you
2. No joining and join limit change isn't accepted.