The Truth About Che Guevara

There are many t-shirts with his face, worn by people who barely even know his name. There was a time when I believed Che Guevara was cool, a hero, and I loved his quotes. Like everyone else, I fell for the propaganda. This will sting the socialists here, because the truth is uncomfortable, but it is also empowering. Because you rise above others when you know it.

This is the murderer you are worshipping: http://youtu.be/1eMLk1nQh5o?t=46m59s

He changed

Написано от Cpt.Magic, 27.06.2014 at 09:20

He changed

Написано от Cpt.Magic, 27.06.2014 at 09:20

He changed

Show proof please.

Написано от Guest, 27.06.2014 at 12:54

Написано от Cpt.Magic, 27.06.2014 at 09:20

He changed

Show proof please.

history is my proof

Написано от Guest, 27.06.2014 at 12:54

Написано от Cpt.Magic, 27.06.2014 at 09:20

He changed

Show proof please.

He is Cuban lol. You can't ever expect a country to talk bad in its history manuals about its past and/or its leaders (with the exception of Germany but this is a different matter because there are other "forces" at work here)

So each country will present its own version, presenting only the facts that favor them and hiding the rest, thus indoctrating the population, and making it believe that "we are always right, our enemy is wrong"

The result? You just witnessed it in this thread. People who will defend murderers and who will fight and die at a moment's notice for the goals of the ruling class, who uses and treats them as livestock in a farm

I find it very interesting how you always try to put your personal opinions as "the truth" and feel the need to go offensive on other people ideology. Maybe it's a psychological issue or something. I guess it's a lack of confidence, just like your opinion on homossexuality

By the way, Guevara wasn't obviously perfect, but this video is totally biased. If you want to discuss about him, maybe you should try to read some more books and not base your poor opinion on a podcast recorded by an extremist right wing supporter. And since we're talking about right wing and right wing propaganda, why don't you tell me how many latin american citizens died because of other dictatorships supported by the US government and compare it to Guevara "crimes"?

Написано от Cpt.Magic, 27.06.2014 at 13:09

Написано от Guest, 27.06.2014 at 12:54

Написано от Cpt.Magic, 27.06.2014 at 09:20

He changed

Show proof please.

history is my proof

Srsly. I won't buy that. Give proof.

Написано от Pinheiro, 27.06.2014 at 16:18

I find it very interesting how you always try to put your personal opinions as "the truth" and feel the need to go offensive on other people ideology.

I wasn't trying to be offensive. You perceived it to be that way, because this is something that's contrary to what you want to believe. The only part that is offended by truth, is the part of you that lives on lies. You might want to reconsider who and what you are worshipping, starting, at least, with your avatar picture. And being offensive toward an ideology or religion that is offensive in and of it self is quite fair, wouldn't you agree? Neo-Nazis think that laws against Nazism are really offensive. Also, "that's offensive!" is not an argument.

Написано от Pinheiro, 27.06.2014 at 16:18

Maybe it's a psychological issue or something. I guess it's a lack of confidence, just like your opinion on homossexuality

There can be no lack of confidence when you are being yourself. But do you even realize what you're saying? The man in your avatar, who you are worshipping and who you would wish to be like :

-Persecuted gays, blacks, and religious people
-Wanted to destroy New York City with nuclear missiles.
-Loved material wealth and private luxuries, despite his image as an ascetic

And you're going to sit here and tell me about MY opinions on homosexuality? Come on now. Don't be ridiculous. You're better than that.

Написано от Pinheiro, 27.06.2014 at 16:18

By the way, Guevara wasn't obviously perfect, but this video is totally biased. If you want to discuss about him, maybe you should try to read some more books and not base your poor opinion on a podcast recorded by an extremist right wing supporter. And since we're talking about right wing and right wing propaganda, why don't you tell me how many latin american citizens died because of other dictatorships supported by the US government and compare it to Guevara "crimes"?

Seriously? You think that video is right wing propaganda recorded by a right wing extremist supporter? LOL. It's obvious you didn't watch it for more than 20 seconds. In my mind, I had the image that you were an reasonable person, who you can trust, and who KNOWS what he's talking about. But all of this is just a bunch of emotional responses. You're embarassing yourself. This is not about right vs left. You might wanna watch the video, or at least check out who the creator really is. Or, if you don't have time, you can just put it on MP3 player or phone, and listen to it while you go to work/come back home, etc: http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/2732/the-truth-about-che-guevara

It's a good use of time

PS: In the movie, Che, I think they could've tried to find someone better looking to play Che. He looked really good. (the real one)

Peace

Guevara was a genius in military and a socalist, also he was against the corrupt capitalist system wich isnt really bad

and thats exactly what napoleon, alexander the great and cesar were too. they all killed way too many people and were strategic geniuses. We love them all.

Написано от Tirpitz406, 28.06.2014 at 18:41

napoleon, alexander the great and cesar were too. they all killed way too many people and were strategic geniuses. We love them all.

Well that says a lot about you

http://youtu.be/G-sTCjUa8h8?t=54m32s

Написано от Unleasheds Wrath, 29.06.2014 at 04:22

Написано от Tirpitz406, 28.06.2014 at 18:41

napoleon, alexander the great and cesar were too. they all killed way too many people and were strategic geniuses. We love them all.

Well that says a lot about you

http://youtu.be/G-sTCjUa8h8?t=54m32s

lol...if i would've saied Catherine the Great too, would you have reacted different?

anyways, with love i don't mean i want to have sex with them (except for Catherine the Great in her 20s) i mean that many people know them and like them for their great conquests.

EDIT:
Guevara was a genius in military and a socalist, also he was against the corrupt capitalist system wich isnt really bad

Socialism was a system that was different from ours, do you like our capitalistic system or don't you? i mean, if you didn't you should find socialism good, and if you do, why do you complain about our system?

Написано от Tirpitz406, 29.06.2014 at 12:34

i mean, if you didn't you should find socialism good, and if you do, why do you complain about our system?

Because it creates people like you, at an alarming rate, like a blind photocopier. Then we, the ones who can think, have to swim around in an ocean of zombies (who have voting rights).

Написано от Unleasheds Wrath, 29.06.2014 at 12:51

Написано от Tirpitz406, 29.06.2014 at 12:34

i mean, if you didn't you should find socialism good, and if you do, why do you complain about our system?

Because it creates people like you, at an alarming rate, like a blind photocopier. Then we, the ones who can think, have to swim around in an ocean of zombies (who have voting rights).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia#Abnormal_reasoning
gg no re

Написано от Tirpitz406, 29.06.2014 at 12:53

gg no re

You just proved my point.

Написано от Unleasheds Wrath, 29.06.2014 at 12:53

Написано от Tirpitz406, 29.06.2014 at 12:53

gg no re

You just proved my point.

stop being stupid
paranoia means having an unreasonable fear, just like you do...

men create conspiracy theorys when they don't feel that they have no control over something and that it is a problem...

Написано от Tirpitz406, 29.06.2014 at 12:56

stop being stupid

lol, you made me giggle. You know, it's funny, it's like a dog looking at a bird and saying: stop being a dog

When it is clear who the dog actually is.

Написано от Tirpitz406, 29.06.2014 at 12:56

men create conspiracy theorys when they don't feel that they have no control over something and that it is a problem...

You know, for a long time I thought, people have just been lied to and dumbed down, but once you present and explain some new things to them, they will at least stop and think about the possiblity, and maybe look at things from a different prespective.

That couldn't be further from the truth. It's not that they don't want to understand, it's just that they can't. They simply are too dumb, acting like monkeys. "What I've been told (indoctrinated) since day 1 is true, everything else is SAIFNDEUINFWFNBAYEDFIU. WHAT? YOU BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE? KILL"

And this is the sad history of the world. A bunch of monkeys, killing eachother and shitting on every great new idea before it became popular.

Написано от Unleasheds Wrath, 29.06.2014 at 13:09

You know, for a long time I thought, people have just been lied to and dumbed down, but once you present and explain some new things to them, they will at least stop and think about the possiblity, and maybe look at things from a different prespective.

That couldn't be further from the truth. It's not that they don't want to understand, it's just that they can't. They simply are too dumb, acting like monkeys. "What I've been told (indoctrinated) since day 1 is true, everything else is SAIFNDEUINFWFNBAYEDFIU. WHAT? YOU BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE? KILL"

give me an argument that stands for your conspiracy theory. you didn't bring up any, AT ALL! Should i just belive what you say? LIKE ONE SHALL BELIVE IN THE RELIGIONS YOU HATE?

and now what, do you listen to what i say? i really don't think so, even though this:
"men create conspiracy theorys when they don't feel that they have no control over something and that it is a problem..."
is something i can back up with facts about the psychology of humen, tested on thousands of us

Написано от Tirpitz406, 29.06.2014 at 13:16

LIKE ONE SHALL BELIVE IN THE RELIGIONS YOU HATE?

Hahah. I know people who called themselves christians, and who after reading the bible became atheists. LOL. And then you have people who don't believe in god but recommend bible as a great "life lesson" source. How retarded is that. 99% of christians never even read the bible. If they did, they wouldn't be christians anymore.

So people with brains will just wake up on their own, they only need a little impulse. Idiots, on the other hand, will never change their mind, despite overwhelming proof.

So, a guy who has a podcast on YouTube is a credible source now?

It seems all you have to do is say "THE WORLD IS A LIE, HERE IS THE TRUTH" then spout some ridiculous statement, claim it to be fact, and boom you just convinced Unleashed. Were you so misguided as a child that you'll cling onto anything that attempts to prove everybody who has a normal life is living a lie to make you feel better about yourself and your current state in the world? It certainly explains how passionate you are about arguing against religion and things of the sort. You try to justify your existence and your life by attempting to convince others that their lives are all a lie. You try to inspire doubt in people and the things they believe in to try to make them feel as miserable as you are. How pathetic. "A miserable person needs somebody more miserable than themselves to survive." A favorite quote of mine.

Написано от Fockmeeard, 29.06.2014 at 14:45

It seems all you have to do is say "THE WORLD IS A LIE, HERE IS THE TRUTH" then spout some ridiculous statement, claim it to be fact, and boom you just convinced Unleashed.

You are mad because the stuff I say is actually forcing you to think and doubt things. And you don't want that, because you want to feel warm and fuzzy in your little conformity, like the dumb monkey you are.

Написано от Unleasheds Wrath, 29.06.2014 at 14:41

Написано от Tirpitz406, 29.06.2014 at 13:16

LIKE ONE SHALL BELIVE IN THE RELIGIONS YOU HATE?

Hahah. I know people who called themselves christians, and who after reading the bible became atheists. LOL. And then you have people who don't believe in god but recommend bible as a great "life lesson" source. How retarded is that. 99% of christians never even read the bible. If they did, they wouldn't be christians anymore.

So people with brains will just wake up on their own, they only need a little impulse. Idiots, on the other hand, will never change their mind, despite overwhelming proof.

it's hopeless, answer to my entire post

Написано от Fockmeeard, 29.06.2014 at 14:45

So, a guy who has a podcast on YouTube is a credible source now?

No. Government is a credible source.

Написано от Fockmeeard, 29.06.2014 at 14:45

You try to justify your existence and your life by attempting to convince others that their lives are all a lie.

If your life wasn't a lie, this wouldn't bother you.

Написано от Fockmeeard, 29.06.2014 at 14:45

attempts to prove everybody who has a normal life is living a lie

Define normal. For me, "normal" represents the majority, not necessarily the "right way".

Are you saying that they're not? The "normal" people defnitely are. There are people who don't live on lies, but they don't belong to the "normal" category. You see, this is the problem. We will always have to navigate through idiots like you, almost like navigating through a minefield.

I found some appropriate music for this thread as well as Unleashed in general.



Anyways, you keep doing whatcha doing Unleashed and come tell me how far you get.

I find this post very annonying. Should be locked.

About guevara, that video is no sense. Reminding you english, prussians, austrians, russians, spanish and even portugueses Hated Napoleon for his brillant conquest. They where jealous because Napoleon was a brillant genius. Maybe you jealous of Che too?

BTW, Mao Zedong killed way more people that all dictators on the world, and he is venerated in china as a God.....

Any threat that starts with "the truth about..." is nonsense. As if there is something true... not after Nietzsche or Baudrillard! Get over it!!!!

Написано от Fockmeeard, 29.06.2014 at 17:29

I found some appropriate music for this thread as well as Unleashed in general.

Because you can't actually respond to what I said.

Написано от Fockmeeard, 29.06.2014 at 17:29

Anyways, you keep doing whatcha doing Unleashed and come tell me how far you get.

Hahah. Stop repeating what your mother told you while she was brainwashing you without even knowing she's doing it. Translation: "If you wanna get far Conform. Conform at all costs"

The weight of conformity is a heavy load to carry. Unfortunately, you will learn this the hard way, child.

Написано от clovis1122, 29.06.2014 at 21:36

Maybe you jealous of Che too?

No dude. But I'm really jealous about your intelligence. You must be a genius

Написано от clovis1122, 29.06.2014 at 21:36

BTW, Mao Zedong killed way more people that all dictators on the world, and he is venerated in china as a God.....

My point exactly. That speaks volumes about the insanity of this world.

Jesus threatens you with eternal hell. Yet people accept that and think he is "love"

Please take a look at this insane world, from outside the Matrix: http://youtu.be/mXh7wYzNspE?t=7m30s