The anti-sjw rabbit hole

Написано от Tirpitz406, 12.11.2018 at 14:23

Написано от boywind2, 12.11.2018 at 14:16

how does that disprove what i said?

You clearly didn't read it.

If you feed a computer genetic data of people from all around the world and tell it to sort this data into 6-8 groups, Americans who call themselves "black" fit in with the African cluster 99.3% of the time.

ok, so what the study does is laid out here

"Our overarching goal is to seek fresh insights into the understanding of racial classification in the contemporary United States by combining a social science perspective with recent advances in human molecular genetics. We aim to (1) establish geographic bio-ancestry as a component of racial classification, and (2) use bio-ancestry measures to examine whether, how much, and how racial self-classification departs from bio-ancestry because of social-contextual influences."

basically, they want to see how self identification of race and bio ancestry matches up, right?
now how does that even relate to "african ancestry is incredibly genetically diverse. how is it viable to lump this genetically diverse group into just one category 'black'?"

the point i was making which you don't seem to understand is that race is a cultural concept and nothing more WHICH IS THE ACCEPTED SCIENCE. this means you can have a black guy and be more closely related genetically to a white guy than another black guy.

this is why it makes no sense for you to conclude that blacks have genetically lower iq compared to whites, asians and latinos. you might be able to conclude that the reason might be a sociological; however, it's absolutely fucking stupid to say the reason is biological.

Написано от boywind2, 13.11.2018 at 19:06

ok, so what the study does is laid out here

"Our overarching goal is to seek fresh insights into the understanding of racial classification in the contemporary United States by combining a social science perspective with recent advances in human molecular genetics. We aim to (1) establish geographic bio-ancestry as a component of racial classification, and (2) use bio-ancestry measures to examine whether, how much, and how racial self-classification departs from bio-ancestry because of social-contextual influences."

basically, they want to see how self identification of race and bio ancestry matches up, right?
now how does that even relate to "african ancestry is incredibly genetically diverse. how is it viable to lump this genetically diverse group into just one category 'black'?"

the point i was making which you don't seem to understand is that race is a cultural concept and nothing more WHICH IS THE ACCEPTED SCIENCE. this means you can have a black guy and be more closely related genetically to a white guy than another black guy.

this is why it makes no sense for you to conclude that blacks have genetically lower iq compared to whites, asians and latinos. you might be able to conclude that the reason might be a sociological; however, it's absolutely fucking stupid to say the reason is biological.

If you cluster all the human genetic data into 8 clusters you get one for sub saharan Africa, which is basically equivalent to what people in the US call black, therfor "black" is a valid scientific category.
How do you not get this? Why do you have to make an appeal to authority to argue against that, can't you argue the science?
Wether "black" is diverse or not doesn't matter, the category of blacks helps me predict and therefor is valid.
You make an appeal to an authority that doesn't exist, because race is accepted as a valid concept by nearly 100% of anthropoligists in China, 43% in Europe and 31% in America. (Liebermann 2004)

Написано от boywind2, 13.11.2018 at 19:06

this is why it makes no sense for you to conclude that blacks have genetically lower iq compared to whites, asians and latinos. you might be able to conclude that the reason might be a sociological; however, it's absolutely fucking stupid to say the reason is biological.

Okay, let me make it as simple as possible: There is no black population around the world, that has an average IQ above 90.
If you give me some random black person from all around the world, I can tell you with more than 50% confidence, that their IQ is going to be below 90.
If you give me some random East asian (excluding Southeastasia, since they are heavily admixed) I can tell you with more than 50% conficence, that their IQ is going to be above 101.
Wether they are from a nearly perfect society and environment like Japan, where their IQ will on average be 105, or from the poor polluted Mongolia doesn't matter that much.
Over there, their IQ will be 101 on average, much higher than the more well off western nations of Germany, France or Great britain, that all nonetheless have lower or similar average IQ's.
This alone should show you, that a solely environmental explanation is retarded, but you will claim, that African Americans (average IQ=85), some of the richest people on the planet, are worse off than some dirt poor farmers or workers in Moldavia (average IQ=96), Kazakhstan (IQ=94), Cambodia (IQ=91) or even a fucking warzone like Iraq (average IQ=87).
Btw, I'm not saying, that environment doesn't have an effect, but that genetics also affect everything.

Denying, that there are differences in the brain, which literally differs in size, shape and function between different races, is simply denying evolution, because people evolved seperated from one another and under different selective pressures.
The chance that all of them turned out the same in the brain is like throwing a handful of pennies on the ground and having them all land on the edge, and wouldn't that just be so convenient?

Написано от Tirpitz406, 14.11.2018 at 05:02

Написано от boywind2, 13.11.2018 at 19:06

ok, so what the study does is laid out here

"Our overarching goal is to seek fresh insights into the understanding of racial classification in the contemporary United States by combining a social science perspective with recent advances in human molecular genetics. We aim to (1) establish geographic bio-ancestry as a component of racial classification, and (2) use bio-ancestry measures to examine whether, how much, and how racial self-classification departs from bio-ancestry because of social-contextual influences."

basically, they want to see how self identification of race and bio ancestry matches up, right?
now how does that even relate to "african ancestry is incredibly genetically diverse. how is it viable to lump this genetically diverse group into just one category 'black'?"

the point i was making which you don't seem to understand is that race is a cultural concept and nothing more WHICH IS THE ACCEPTED SCIENCE. this means you can have a black guy and be more closely related genetically to a white guy than another black guy.

this is why it makes no sense for you to conclude that blacks have genetically lower iq compared to whites, asians and latinos. you might be able to conclude that the reason might be a sociological; however, it's absolutely fucking stupid to say the reason is biological.

If you cluster all the human genetic data into 8 clusters you get one for sub saharan Africa, which is basically equivalent to what people in the US call black, therfor "black" is a valid scientific category.
How do you not get this? Why do you have to make an appeal to authority to argue against that, can't you argue the science?
Wether "black" is diverse or not doesn't matter, the category of blacks helps me predict and therefor is valid.
You make an appeal to an authority that doesn't exist, because race is accepted as a valid concept by nearly 100% of anthropoligists in China, 43% in Europe and 31% in America. (Liebermann 2004)

Написано от boywind2, 13.11.2018 at 19:06

this is why it makes no sense for you to conclude that blacks have genetically lower iq compared to whites, asians and latinos. you might be able to conclude that the reason might be a sociological; however, it's absolutely fucking stupid to say the reason is biological.

Okay, let me make it as simple as possible: There is no black population around the world, that has an average IQ above 90.
If you give me some random black person from all around the world, I can tell you with more than 50% confidence, that their IQ is going to be below 90.
If you give me some random East asian (excluding Southeastasia, since they are heavily admixed) I can tell you with more than 50% conficence, that their IQ is going to be above 101.
Wether they are from a nearly perfect society and environment like Japan, where their IQ will on average be 105, or from the poor polluted Mongolia doesn't matter that much.
Over there, their IQ will be 101 on average, much higher than the more well off western nations of Germany, France or Great britain, that all nonetheless have lower or similar average IQ's.
This alone should show you, that a solely environmental explanation is retarded, but you will contest, that African Americans (average IQ=85), some of the richest people on the planet, are worse off than some dirt poor farmers or workers in Moldavia (average IQ=96), Kazakhstan (IQ=94), Cambodia (IQ=91) or even a fucking warzone like Iraq (average IQ=87).
Btw, I'm not saying, that environment doesn't have an effect, but that genetics also affect everything.

Denying, that there are differences in the brain, which literally differs in size, shape and function between different races, is simply denying evolution, because people evolved seperated from one another and under different selective pressures.
The chance that all of them turned out the same in the brain is like throwing a handful of pennies on the ground and having them all land on the edge, and wouldn't that just be so convenient?

Your wasting your time. It's against the narrative that has been hard pressed into their brains since birth. People will defend there false reality vehemently in order to retain peace of mind and solace in the fact they believe they have basic understanding of the world around them. People fear the unknown, and they tend to fill in holes of knowledge with what makes them feel more comfortable rather than the truth. Your beating a dead horse so to say. Some people are just bound to die in total ignorance.

Написано от boywind2, 13.11.2018 at 19:06

Написано от Tirpitz406, 12.11.2018 at 14:23

Написано от boywind2, 12.11.2018 at 14:16

how does that disprove what i said?

You clearly didn't read it.

If you feed a computer genetic data of people from all around the world and tell it to sort this data into 6-8 groups, Americans who call themselves "black" fit in with the African cluster 99.3% of the time.

ok, so what the study does is laid out here

"Our overarching goal is to seek fresh insights into the understanding of racial classification in the contemporary United States by combining a social science perspective with recent advances in human molecular genetics. We aim to (1) establish geographic bio-ancestry as a component of racial classification, and (2) use bio-ancestry measures to examine whether, how much, and how racial self-classification departs from bio-ancestry because of social-contextual influences."

basically, they want to see how self identification of race and bio ancestry matches up, right?
now how does that even relate to "african ancestry is incredibly genetically diverse. how is it viable to lump this genetically diverse group into just one category 'black'?"

the point i was making which you don't seem to understand is that race is a cultural concept and nothing more WHICH IS THE ACCEPTED SCIENCE. this means you can have a black guy and be more closely related genetically to a white guy than another black guy.

this is why it makes no sense for you to conclude that blacks have genetically lower iq compared to whites, asians and latinos. you might be able to conclude that the reason might be a sociological; however, it's absolutely fucking stupid to say the reason is biological.

As if science isnt flawed. Scientific theories and researches change over time, theyre never set in stone for long. and im pretty sure that the whole race is a social cultural concept theory will get debunked in the future.

Написано от 4nic Smith, 14.11.2018 at 15:07

Написано от boywind2, 13.11.2018 at 19:06

Написано от Tirpitz406, 12.11.2018 at 14:23

Написано от boywind2, 12.11.2018 at 14:16

how does that disprove what i said?

You clearly didn't read it.

If you feed a computer genetic data of people from all around the world and tell it to sort this data into 6-8 groups, Americans who call themselves "black" fit in with the African cluster 99.3% of the time.

ok, so what the study does is laid out here

"Our overarching goal is to seek fresh insights into the understanding of racial classification in the contemporary United States by combining a social science perspective with recent advances in human molecular genetics. We aim to (1) establish geographic bio-ancestry as a component of racial classification, and (2) use bio-ancestry measures to examine whether, how much, and how racial self-classification departs from bio-ancestry because of social-contextual influences."

basically, they want to see how self identification of race and bio ancestry matches up, right?
now how does that even relate to "african ancestry is incredibly genetically diverse. how is it viable to lump this genetically diverse group into just one category 'black'?"

the point i was making which you don't seem to understand is that race is a cultural concept and nothing more WHICH IS THE ACCEPTED SCIENCE. this means you can have a black guy and be more closely related genetically to a white guy than another black guy.

this is why it makes no sense for you to conclude that blacks have genetically lower iq compared to whites, asians and latinos. you might be able to conclude that the reason might be a sociological; however, it's absolutely fucking stupid to say the reason is biological.

As if science isnt flawed. Scientific theories and researches change over time, theyre never set in stone for long. and im pretty sure that the whole race is a social cultural concept theory will get debunked in the future.

Race basically boils down to skin color.

That study that Tirpitz refers to was conducted by a famous white supremacist. Tirpitz just shut the fuck up lmao, you're using a biased study to justify your bullshit beliefs

Написано от Player 999, 14.11.2018 at 19:10

That study that Tirpitz refers to was conducted by a famous white supremacist. Tirpitz just shut the fuck up lmao, you're using a biased study to justify your bullshit beliefs

You do the same exact thing though. I think you should keep your white shaming to yourself as much as his white supremacy.

Написано от Player 999, 14.11.2018 at 19:10

That study that Tirpitz refers to was conducted by a famous white supremacist. Tirpitz just shut the fuck up lmao, you're using a biased study to justify your bullshit beliefs

>say famous white supremacist racist bigot nazi fascist mysoginist anti sjw etc
>win every online argument


Nope, that doesent sound like left wing agenda narrative at all. All rational ideas straight from your brainhole. totaly not an NPC.

Lots of seemingly confused ideologies here(social/genetic sciences).
"african" black=(generally)sub-saharan.
"african" white=( " )mediteranean
"african"born out of africa 1st/2nd+generation depending upon(as with all emigree races)intergration,in all its forms,
should negate race/colour/creed for national born.
for those of you who may be unaware in uk almost every official enquiry form follows up with race/ethnic origen/religion/etc
(dependent upon info gathering required there are variations).
generally speaking sub continent females are,relatively,amongst the most educationally successful.(parents not neccessarily driving force)..
generally speaking males of african origin are relatively the least educationally successful.(sub culture/peer pressure/environment driving force).
iq testings relative to nurture/nature/memory/stress levels/environment eg australian aborigionals excel way beyond europeans at certain iq tests.

very bad practice to use 1/2 scientific studies to justify personal viewpoint(otherwise everyone would be scientologists).

Написано от Helly, 14.11.2018 at 20:56

Написано от Player 999, 14.11.2018 at 19:10

That study that Tirpitz refers to was conducted by a famous white supremacist. Tirpitz just shut the fuck up lmao, you're using a biased study to justify your bullshit beliefs

You do the same exact thing though. I think you should keep you white shaming to yourself as much as his white supremacy.

Not white-shaming boi, just white supremacist shaming. People with his beliefs are the exact same people who enslaved so many people in the 1700/1800s

Написано от Tirpitz406, 14.11.2018 at 05:02

If you cluster all the human genetic data into 8 clusters you get one for sub saharan Africa, which is basically equivalent to what people in the US call black, therfor "black" is a valid scientific category.
How do you not get this? Why do you have to make an appeal to authority to argue against that, can't you argue the science?
Wether "black" is diverse or not doesn't matter, the category of blacks helps me predict and therefor is valid.
You make an appeal to an authority that doesn't exist, because race is accepted as a valid concept by nearly 100% of anthropoligists in China, 43% in Europe and 31% in America. (Liebermann 2004)

Okay, let me make it as simple as possible: There is no black population around the world, that has an average IQ above 90.
If you give me some random black person from all around the world, I can tell you with more than 50% confidence, that their IQ is going to be below 90.
If you give me some random East asian (excluding Southeastasia, since they are heavily admixed) I can tell you with more than 50% conficence, that their IQ is going to be above 101.
Wether they are from a nearly perfect society and environment like Japan, where their IQ will on average be 105, or from the poor polluted Mongolia doesn't matter that much.
Over there, their IQ will be 101 on average, much higher than the more well off western nations of Germany, France or Great britain, that all nonetheless have lower or similar average IQ's.
This alone should show you, that a solely environmental explanation is retarded, but you will claim, that African Americans (average IQ=85), some of the richest people on the planet, are worse off than some dirt poor farmers or workers in Moldavia (average IQ=96), Kazakhstan (IQ=94), Cambodia (IQ=91) or even a fucking warzone like Iraq (average IQ=87).
Btw, I'm not saying, that environment doesn't have an effect, but that genetics also affect everything.

Denying, that there are differences in the brain, which literally differs in size, shape and function between different races, is simply denying evolution, because people evolved seperated from one another and under different selective pressures.
The chance that all of them turned out the same in the brain is like throwing a handful of pennies on the ground and having them all land on the edge, and wouldn't that just be so convenient?

Ok, you are literally not getting my points. Sub saharan Africans themselves have incredible genetic diversity, so it still doesn't fucking make sense to generally round them up as "black." It's not a fucking appeal to authority when it is practically settled science. Categorizing matters a whole lot in statistics. You are coming to false conclusions because you are failing to categorize the groups. Even your fucking source your cited literally contradicts your argument and supports mine in the concluding remarks:

"It is time, perhaps, to agreeon one point: the problem of human races has ceased tobe an issue of biological knowledge. Race is a vague term that is impossible to define. In biological terms, enough arguments (above all, the genetic ones) have accumulated against the notion of human races as taxonomic units to consider the matter closed. As George Armelagos aptly summarizes: "Race is dead as a scientific method for understanding human variation" (1995:108)"

"In most social sciences in the United States, race is often believed to represent "real" social fact categories. In this social sense, a group of people is designated as a race regardless of their genetic complement. The criteria for defining "social races" varies: from an ancestry, through social status and custom, to phenotypical appearance (Harris 1980; Wagley 1968). However, as Charles Wagley (1968) remarks, race terms, although entangled with sociocultural meanings, remain symbols from the past."

The study basically pointed out that many newer generation of anthropologists because of a very stupid educational system. Do you even fucking read what you post?

You literally don't understand do you? Name a country where most blacks are socioeconomically well off and you can not do it. Even in very progressive countries, racial socioeconomic gap exists because of the discrimination that blacks face. This causes the flynn effect and you know where I'm going here. There isn't a single gene that all black skinned people have that also makes people have lower IQs. If you make this fucking astounding discovery, please share it with Richard Spencer and his goons.

I really don't think you know how statistic works. You are making very grandiose claims without good data to back it up. You really know you're saying some bat shit crazy things when you've got Hellykin out of all people backing you up, lmao.

Написано от 4nic Smith, 14.11.2018 at 15:07

As if science isnt flawed. Scientific theories and researches change over time, theyre never set in stone for long. and im pretty sure that the whole race is a social cultural concept theory will get debunked in the future.

That's like saying climate change will get debunked in the future. The idea that race was a useful measure in biologically was thrown away after a contemporary understanding of human genetics. Race being a social construct doesn't disregard the existence of race and it can be a very useful measure in sociological studies. However, it's very flawed when used in biological studies. This idea of race realism is mostly fueled by white nationalists who want to flaunt their racial superiority in order to justify a white ethno state.

It's just so fucking unbelievable how Tripitz a fucking German has the audacity to argue race realism to me who is Jewish. Really shows the ignorance younger generation Germans have towards the holocaust and even reality. Triptiz, next time you make these stupid claims, be sure to read a fucking book and see what your country did to my people little fucker.

Написано от Player 999, 14.11.2018 at 22:40

Написано от Helly, 14.11.2018 at 20:56

Написано от Player 999, 14.11.2018 at 19:10

That study that Tirpitz refers to was conducted by a famous white supremacist. Tirpitz just shut the fuck up lmao, you're using a biased study to justify your bullshit beliefs

You do the same exact thing though. I think you should keep you white shaming to yourself as much as his white supremacy.

Not white-shaming boi, just white supremacist shaming. People with his beliefs are the exact same people who enslaved so many people in the 1700/1800s

Not a single person your bitching at has ever owned a slave. Aswell youv claimed several times that Africans are more successful and are more intelligent then white people. You cant have it both ways. Either we are all equal or we ain't.

Написано от boywind2, 15.11.2018 at 01:07

It's just so fucking unbelievable how Tripitz a fucking German has the audacity to argue race realism to me who is Jewish. Really shows the ignorance younger generation Germans have towards the holocaust and even reality. Triptiz, next time you make these stupid claims, be sure to read a fucking book and see what your country did to my people little fucker.

You can blame european governments for focusing on immigrants over there native populations for that. It ain't just germans, iv met french, polish, english, and greeks who share tirpitz's views do to the fact that they're lives are worse off fore the sake of their governments quest to prove they are all inclusive, at the cost of there own tax base. Any time you alienate a group it is bound to radicalize whites are no exception.

Написано от boywind2, 15.11.2018 at 00:05

Ok, you are literally not getting my points. Sub saharan Africans themselves have incredible genetic diversity, so it still doesn't fucking make sense to generally round them up as "black." It's not a fucking appeal to authority when it is practically settled science. Categorizing matters a whole lot in statistics. You are coming to false conclusions because you are failing to categorize the groups. Even your fucking source your cited literally contradicts your argument and supports mine in the concluding remarks:

"It is time, perhaps, to agreeon one point: the problem of human races has ceased tobe an issue of biological knowledge. Race is a vague term that is impossible to define. In biological terms, enough arguments (above all, the genetic ones) have accumulated against the notion of human races as taxonomic units to consider the matter closed. As George Armelagos aptly summarizes: "Race is dead as a scientific method for understanding human variation" (1995:108)"

"In most social sciences in the United States, race is often believed to represent "real" social fact categories. In this social sense, a group of people is designated as a race regardless of their genetic complement. The criteria for defining "social races" varies: from an ancestry, through social status and custom, to phenotypical appearance (Harris 1980; Wagley 1968). However, as Charles Wagley (1968) remarks, race terms, although entangled with sociocultural meanings, remain symbols from the past."

The study basically pointed out that many newer generation of anthropologists because of a very stupid educational system. Do you even fucking read what you post?

You literally don't understand do you? Name a country where most blacks are socioeconomically well off and you can not do it. Even in very progressive countries, racial socioeconomic gap exists because of the discrimination that blacks face. This causes the flynn effect and you know where I'm going here. There isn't a single gene that all black skinned people have that also makes people have lower IQs. If you make this fucking astounding discovery, please share it with Richard Spencer and his goons.

I really don't think you know how statistic works. You are making very grandiose claims without good data to back it up. You really know you're saying some bat shit crazy things when you've got Hellykin out of all people backing you up, lmao.

Cluster analysises are literally a method to determine sub-species in Biology. Those show, that blacks are their own category, a sub-species, i.e. race.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_analysis#Biology,_computational_biology_and_bioinformatics

For the study: I don't give a shit about this researchers opinions, look at the fucking data. It's not "settled science" (which btw doesn't exist) if ~40% of the relevant researchers disagree with it.
Look, I gave you 5 examples of blacks being socioeconomically better off than people they are less intelligent than, if you don't get, that this disproves the assumption, that these intelligence differences can't be solely due to socioeconomical environments, then you either are basing your convictions on belief or are too stupid for me to carry on this discussion, OR you are trolling, which I've expected from the start, but I honestly didn't think some faggot would spend this much time wasting half as much of mine. That's just stupid.

Helly is love.

Написано от Player 999, 14.11.2018 at 19:10

That study that Tirpitz refers to was conducted by a famous white supremacist. Tirpitz just shut the fuck up lmao, you're using a biased study to justify your bullshit beliefs

Написано от boywind2, 15.11.2018 at 01:07

Nigga dis data literally shows Jews have the highest IQ's of any group in the US.

Also, I don't give a shit about the holocaust, that was literally 3 generations ago.

Написано от Tirpitz406, 15.11.2018 at 05:51

Cluster analysises are literally a method to determine sub-species in Biology. Those show, that blacks are their own category, a sub-species, i.e. race.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_analysis#Biology,_computational_biology_and_bioinformatics

For the study: I don't give a shit about this researchers opinions, look at the fucking data. It's not "settled science" (which btw doesn't exist) if ~40% of the relevant researchers disagree with it.
Look, I gave you 5 examples of blacks being socioeconomically better off than people they are less intelligent than, if you don't get, that this disproves the assumption, that these intelligence differences can't be solely due to socioeconomical environments, then you either are basing your convictions on belief or are too stupid for me to carry on this discussion, OR you are trolling, which I've expected from the start, but I honestly didn't think some faggot would spend this much time wasting half as much of mine. That's just stupid.

Helly is love.

The data which I think you are referring to says 69% of physical anthropologists believe that race does not exist in a biological sense. 30% are neutral or disagree. This survey was done in 1996. Since then, more information have emerged and most or possibly all reputable organizations or foundation or shit agree that race does not exist biologically.

You didn't give me any example of a data or a study that showed a socioeconomically better off black individual having a lower IQ than individuals who weren't.

I never said that intelligence difference might not have a genetic factor to it. I said that it's very fucking stupid to say that you can find genetic intelligence differences between races.

I don't want to listen to your poor understanding of data analysis. So give me one study in which the researchers conclude that Africans have genetically lower IQ and the genes that are responsible for this disparity.

Tirptiz you are close, but you are making the wrong argument here.

WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT:

Its pretty evident that human migration out of Africa 50-100k years ago resulted in genetic differences between the races, how many are genetic and how many are enviromental/cultural we will never know (even though we have some studies), because further research is impossible due to outside pressure to researchers, censorship, threats and no funding.

WHERE YOU ARE WRONG:

And for a good reason, because once you prove genetic differences tied to IQ and etc that will translate to policy changes and further discrimination and nobody wants that. Most of us want a safe society with equal rights for all people and adherence to the law, the problem is when uneducated liberal pieces of shit dont realize that equality means that if females work less hours and are less productive they will earn less and that if black people sell drugs and kill people they will get beaten up, thrown in jail and/or accidentally shot by a cop.

WHAT YOU SHOULD ARGUE:

The beef is about ethnicity/culture.

Example 1: Blacks become violent when raised in the ghettos, when they get preached into victim-hood (get it,hehe) and when no life loser liberals enable and support this behavior, but you will see that black families living in better neighbourhoods, with guidance from the parents and decent education and they thrive.

Example 2 : Whenever Albanians migrate they take up all the illegal jobs, create gangs or become employed in construction/ships at most. They have a strong culture of backwarded sauvinistic and violent beliefs and no regard for human life and those values pass around in the family. (Skend is an exception)

Example 3: If you look at muslim immigrant statistics, they score worst out of all immigrant groups in everything and everywhere from employment to crime and only a very small percentage ever assimilates into the host country culture and laws. Its probably not genetics, but the abomination of culture/ religion /political system they call islam.

Example 4: Asian immigrants in comparison score the highest in everything. Damn that could be used as an argument both ways..I believe it is the culture and not genetics, that of hard work, education, law abiding mentality and respect.


And i will close with a personal example for the liberals who think they know about the world, when the farthest they have travelled is to the local liquor shop. I live in a country in South East Asia and the country here earns so much money from tourism and in the end the infastructure is shit, pollution is high, they earn shit or if they earn they burn it god knows where. Income inequality is everywhere. The locals themselves are kind and the sweetest of people, but they cant and dont want to work and even those who do work are doing a horrible job, thats why most of the money go to Westerners including me, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY WORK AND GIVE A DAMN and not because the evil white man is opressing them.

Does it matter in the end if they genetically have a disadvantage, if their culture is the one who pushes them to not give a fuck, be lazy and not work and pray to the gods all day and not being able to run even a convenience store?

So next time liberal lowlifes go black lives matter on you, try the culture angle.

I live near detroit, we are a cultural melting pot. Iv met the best and worse of each ethnicity. I hate when liberals try and force there way of thinking on everyone else. It's not the white mans fault. Everyone should be held accountable for their individual choices. Not on the colour of there skin. These snow flakes need to get a grip on reality, and stop white shaming and take responsibility for themselves.

Написано от Helly, 15.11.2018 at 10:54

I live near detroit, we are a cultural melting pot. Iv met the best and worse of each ethnicity. I hate when liberals try and force there way of thinking on everyone else. It's not the white mans fault. Everyone should be held accountable for their individual choices. Not on the colour of there skin. These snow flakes need to get a grip on reality, and stop white shaming and take responsibility for themselves.

Same can be said about lazy, uneducated, and unemployed republicans who blame the left for all their problems.

Wife divorced you? Liberals fault.

Lost your job? Damn liberals ruining economy

Also if you think the color of your skin doesn't impact your life at all, try being black for a week.

Написано от boywind2, 15.11.2018 at 00:15

Написано от 4nic Smith, 14.11.2018 at 15:07

As if science isnt flawed. Scientific theories and researches change over time, theyre never set in stone for long. and im pretty sure that the whole race is a social cultural concept theory will get debunked in the future.

That's like saying climate change will get debunked in the future. The idea that race was a useful measure in biologically was thrown away after a contemporary understanding of human genetics. Race being a social construct doesn't disregard the existence of race and it can be a very useful measure in sociological studies. However, it's very flawed when used in biological studies. This idea of race realism is mostly fueled by white nationalists who want to flaunt their racial superiority in order to justify a white ethno state.

no its not at all like saying climate change is going to get debunked.
Climate change is a standalone proven fact, while this entire race thing is much more complicated because more things need to be taken into account

Написано от boywind2, 15.11.2018 at 01:07

It's just so fucking unbelievable how Tripitz a fucking German has the audacity to argue race realism to me who is Jewish. Really shows the ignorance younger generation Germans have towards the holocaust and even reality. Triptiz, next time you make these stupid claims, be sure to read a fucking book and see what your country did to my people little fucker.

Shalom Brother

I as a jew am also offended, he is a Hitler
reincarnation and very unstable, i am scared. And i feel like us jews should get an ethno state on atwar-game.com for all the abuse and tormentation we are getting, curse the white aryan nazi supremacist rightist JERKS RUINING OUR GAME. BAN THEM ALL

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 15.11.2018 at 12:06

Написано от Helly, 15.11.2018 at 10:54

I live near detroit, we are a cultural melting pot. Iv met the best and worse of each ethnicity. I hate when liberals try and force there way of thinking on everyone else. It's not the white mans fault. Everyone should be held accountable for their individual choices. Not on the colour of there skin. These snow flakes need to get a grip on reality, and stop white shaming and take responsibility for themselves.

Same can be said about lazy, uneducated, and unemployed republicans who blame the left for all their problems.

Wife divorced you? Liberals fault.

Lost your job? Damn liberals ruining economy

Also if you think the color of your skin doesn't impact your life at all, try being black for a week.

Not something I do, nore am I a Republican, your barking up the wrong tree. Btw I was talking about c-sharp not you.

Написано от Helly, 15.11.2018 at 05:44

Not a single person your bitching at has ever owned a slave. Aswell youv claimed several times that Africans are more successful and are more intelligent then white people. You cant have it both ways. Either we are all equal or we ain't.

Tirpitz is the one claiming that people aren't worth the same amount, that one race is "worth" more than another. Socioeconomic status is one thing, but that little neo-nazi worm is trying to argue that germans are superior to people who happen to have black skin. You're creating a false dichotomy here. Socioeconomic status may be higher for African immigrants, but everyone regardless is worth the same as a human being. Tirpitz is claiming that people aren't worth the same; he is making ridiculous claims to justify his own racism and frustration at being unable to compete with immigrants socioeconomically

Написано от Helly, 15.11.2018 at 14:26

Not something I do, nore am I a Republican, your barking up the wrong tree. Btw I was talking about c-sharp not you.

Nothing wrong with taking responsibility, that's what everyone should do regardless of race lol. We're arguing about Tipbitch's white supremacist argument, not on what people should do to get ahead. His white supremacist view is bullshit, as all races are worth the same amount as any other. And before he argues about iq again, by his own standards, asian and jewish people would be "superior", as their iqs have been measured to be higher. Is tipbitch really trying to argue that whites are superior based on iq, when other races have higher average iqs? His own iq must be lacking. Every race is equal and worthy as a human being., regardless of iq

Написано от Player 999, 15.11.2018 at 16:34

This is so strange. Who talked about worth? If that was true, I would have been arguing, that JEWS and ASIANS are worth more than I am. If anything I'm a Jewish and Asian supremacist you retard. But I don't. Because I don't believe, that intelligence=worth. Look, I am totally capable of competing with migrants, I study Economics&Psychology (wirtschaftspsychologie) and most migrants don't even have any degree, but the fringes of our society have to compete with them aswell. Migrants lower their wages and make their lives worse by competing with them. Thats why I think we should have, at most, an amount of migrants per year, that can be completely absorbed into our society, so, somewhere between 0 and 30 000.

Написано от Player 999, 15.11.2018 at 16:34

Написано от Helly, 15.11.2018 at 05:44

Not a single person your bitching at has ever owned a slave. Aswell youv claimed several times that Africans are more successful and are more intelligent then white people. You cant have it both ways. Either we are all equal or we ain't.

Tirpitz is the one claiming that people aren't worth the same amount, that one race is "worth" more than another. Socioeconomic status is one thing, but that little neo-nazi worm is trying to argue that germans are superior to people who happen to have black skin. You're creating a false dichotomy here. Socioeconomic status may be higher for African immigrants, but everyone regardless is worth the same as a human being. Tirpitz is claiming that people aren't worth the same; he is making ridiculous claims to justify his own racism and frustration at being unable to compete with immigrants socioeconomically

If germans are superior, why did they lose the war.

Написано от Witch-Doctor, 04.12.2018 at 07:12

If germans are superior, why did they lose the war.

Good point :O. Lol they lost both world wars and were russia's bitch for 45 years