More Power to Mapmakers

Написано от theFuehrer, 14.01.2015 at 05:09

Написано от RaulPB, 14.01.2015 at 04:59

Написано от theFuehrer, 14.01.2015 at 04:57

Nice one... I thought the original argument was almost over!

Oh come on, I'm being serious here... I just wanted to know

Ahhh, I'm just messing with you. I'm pretty curious to see his response as well.

Написано от 1GodofWar1, 14.01.2015 at 07:54

Map makers should get paid for their maps and contribution to an other boring game without all these interesting well made map then if they decide to sell the maps to aw aw will be able to do as they please with the maps.
problem solved ty yw and if i dont see u good morning afternoon good evening and good night.

Написано от Tundy, 13.01.2015 at 19:22

Sorry Fock, but your analogy has no value because i don't make money out of the maps, if i did i would not even ban trolls.

Написано от Fockmeeard, 13.01.2015 at 18:49

I am simply stating that the maps you make are not 100% in your possession alone, rather it is shared with the site. That site is represented by mods so they so have authority in dictating the process of banning a member from the maps.

It has already been establish that map makers own the maps at a 100% until Ivan and Amok decide to take them away from us(but they are not):

Think about it like DLC, you can't play the DLC without the basegame, If you buy access to the basegame then you may have access to the DLC.
- I own the DLC
- Ivan and Amok own the basegame

Написано от Quantum027, 14.01.2015 at 11:14

Написано от 1GodofWar1, 14.01.2015 at 07:54

Map makers should get paid for their maps and contribution to an other boring game without all these interesting well made map then if they decide to sell the maps to aw aw will be able to do as they please with the maps.
problem solved ty yw and if i dont see u good morning afternoon good evening and good night.

we do not need to get paid, i make maps and scenarios out of pure enjoyment and make maps that I myself would play, but that being said, I have little motivation to edit maps and create scenarios when I am surrounded by moderators who focus only on controlling the community rather than coinciding with it.

Написано от Fockmeeard, 14.01.2015 at 12:03

Написано от Quantum027, 14.01.2015 at 11:14

Написано от 1GodofWar1, 14.01.2015 at 07:54

Map makers should get paid for their maps and contribution to an other boring game without all these interesting well made map then if they decide to sell the maps to aw aw will be able to do as they please with the maps.
problem solved ty yw and if i dont see u good morning afternoon good evening and good night.

we do not need to get paid, i make maps and scenarios out of pure enjoyment and make maps that I myself would play, but that being said, I have little motivation to edit maps and create scenarios when I am surrounded by moderators who focus only on controlling the community rather than coinciding with it.

>1 map
>10 plays
>speaks for all of mapmakers

Lol.

Написано от Goblin, 14.01.2015 at 12:34

Написано от Fockmeeard, 14.01.2015 at 12:01

Especially considering that there was no written statement saying so. It's not like you brought a stock and obtained a piece of at war.

If there was no written statement xD ...thats excatly why the maps belong to the map makers.

Написано от Fockmeeard, 14.01.2015 at 12:53

Which is again, an assumption.

Написано от Fockmeeard, 14.01.2015 at 12:01

My analogy did not involve a profit. I think you're assuming a bit too much when you purchased your game options for $20. Nowhere did it say that you gained full rights to your maps. Or that it became your property. You assumed that. Do you think Ivan and Amok would sell out their work for $20 a person, that enables them to make their own maps and have full rights and control over that map? That's a bit silly. Especially considering that there was no written statement saying so. It's not like you brought a stock and obtained a piece of at war.

Написано от Tundy, 14.01.2015 at 07:23

Написано от Guest, 14.01.2015 at 02:22

Can I abuse my children/pets? I cannot, even though they are mine. Mapmakers do not have unlimited authority, as you are limited by rule ONE

Your analogy is irrelevant because maps are not living things

Написано от Guest, 14.01.2015 at 15:40

Написано от Tundy, 14.01.2015 at 07:23

Написано от Guest, 14.01.2015 at 02:22

Can I abuse my children/pets? I cannot, even though they are mine. Mapmakers do not have unlimited authority, as you are limited by rule ONE

Your analogy is irrelevant because maps are not living things

And as International said, you cannot build a skyscraper on your property either.

Написано от Bellerophon, 14.01.2015 at 09:56

Good question. I have a pretty devoted base of followers, They consistently ask me to make changes or add things to my maps they they want or think would be cool. A lot of the time its just because they can't make maps themselves and want me to do it for them.

Написано от RaulPB, 14.01.2015 at 16:33

Написано от Bellerophon, 14.01.2015 at 09:56

Good question. I have a pretty devoted base of followers, They consistently ask me to make changes or add things to my maps they they want or think would be cool. A lot of the time its just because they can't make maps themselves and want me to do it for them.

But... those aren't actual demands... are they? It sounds more like if they were suggesting new details to me. Is it annoying? XD

Написано от Goblin, 14.01.2015 at 15:58

Cant even laugh at this analogies from how dumb and out of place they are ...is the scyscraper analogy now actually saying, AW is our property and the skyscraper is the map

...and seriously is this a 2015 thing now ...last year was everyone shouting "add hominem" at everything, guess the time of the analogies has come.

Написано от Tundy, 14.01.2015 at 15:45

Написано от Guest, 14.01.2015 at 15:40

Написано от Tundy, 14.01.2015 at 07:23

Написано от Guest, 14.01.2015 at 02:22

Can I abuse my children/pets? I cannot, even though they are mine. Mapmakers do not have unlimited authority, as you are limited by rule ONE

Your analogy is irrelevant because maps are not living things

And as International said, you cannot build a skyscraper on your property either.

first of all:

1.- this is not about me not being allowed to make maps, because i can. Since maps are already made, your analogy is irrelevant.
2.- i never sign up any contract that says that i don't have total control of my map.

so plz stop with analogies, they are irrelevant and pointless.
you have no argument or any valid point, so plz stop posting your worthless opinion,

Написано от International, 15.01.2015 at 02:20

The skyscraper analogy was intended for one and only one purpose: a simple demonstration, using a precedent (skyscrapers), that ownership of something does not entitle the owner to full control of that thing.

Написано от Guest, 15.01.2015 at 02:59

You didn't sign any contract at all, except 1. Doing anything that interferes with the ability of other users to enjoy playing a game in accordance with its rules

Написано от Tundy, 15.01.2015 at 06:23

#rekt

Написано от Columna Durruti, 15.01.2015 at 07:05

Написано от Tundy, 15.01.2015 at 06:23

#rekt

corekt
From the very beginning!

Написано от Goblin, 15.01.2015 at 06:10

Написано от Guest, 15.01.2015 at 02:59

You didn't sign any contract at all, except 1. Doing anything that interferes with the ability of other users to enjoy playing a game in accordance with its rules

If that was so ...map makers would be forbiden from deleting or unpublishing their maps which isnt the case.

Your wide interpretation of that rule is therefore invalid ...furthermore since in that case you could consider PRIVATE games limitation of other players enjoyment, you could consider RANKED games limitation of other players enjoyment ...

Wrecked.

Написано от Guest, 15.01.2015 at 08:03

If the rule disallowed deleting ...deleting would be impossible.

Написано от Guest, 15.01.2015 at 08:03

Написано от Goblin, 15.01.2015 at 06:10

Написано от Guest, 15.01.2015 at 02:59

You didn't sign any contract at all, except 1. Doing anything that interferes with the ability of other users to enjoy playing a game in accordance with its rules

If that was so ...map makers would be forbiden from deleting or unpublishing their maps which isnt the case.

Your wide interpretation of that rule is therefore invalid ...furthermore since in that case you could consider PRIVATE games limitation of other players enjoyment, you could consider RANKED games limitation of other players enjoyment ...

Wrecked.

If the rule disallowed deleting, priv and ranked games they would not exist and deleting would be impossible.

Написано от Goblin, 14.01.2015 at 13:32

Again ...give map makers voting power when it comes to appeals and banns. Thats one reasonable compromise in my opinion.

Написано от Quantum027, 15.01.2015 at 11:14

still would lead to corruption, just make it so that no other people can unban someone (mods or a council or whatever) because in the end the map maker will never be happy if other people (who probably aren't always supportive of every map maker) make decisions on who they can ban.

Написано от Tundy, 15.01.2015 at 10:28

Написано от Guest, 15.01.2015 at 08:03

Написано от Goblin, 15.01.2015 at 06:10

Написано от Guest, 15.01.2015 at 02:59

You didn't sign any contract at all, except 1. Doing anything that interferes with the ability of other users to enjoy playing a game in accordance with its rules

If that was so ...map makers would be forbiden from deleting or unpublishing their maps which isnt the case.

Your wide interpretation of that rule is therefore invalid ...furthermore since in that case you could consider PRIVATE games limitation of other players enjoyment, you could consider RANKED games limitation of other players enjoyment ...

Wrecked.

If the rule disallowed deleting, priv and ranked games they would not exist and deleting would be impossible.

And where does it say in the rules, that we can't ban people? Lol are you mentally retarded? Or just autistic? Are you the type of autistic kid that gets upset when he gets out of his routine?

Your analogies are irrelevant and incomparable, your posts lack any logic and reason.

Allowing us to delete a map but not blocking specific people from it its like saying you are allowed to kill people but you are not allowed to slap them.

Only a autistic person wont get how silly your analogies are.

Написано от Goblin, 15.01.2015 at 11:32

Написано от Quantum027, 15.01.2015 at 11:14

still would lead to corruption, just make it so that no other people can unban someone (mods or a council or whatever) because in the end the map maker will never be happy if other people (who probably aren't always supportive of every map maker) make decisions on who they can ban.

Decision who they can ban or who they cant ban should then not be the power of mods, map makers or anyone since everyone is corruptible.

Then who you can ban or not should be in the power of rules ...since you all couldnt agree on the color of the sky, does rules should be made by amok and ivan on who's game you publish your maps.

Enforcer of this rules doe, ones who decide about the appeals should be the map makers and the mods combined team because obviously someone who isn't bound to any rules or has an opposing force in a situation where they both control each other is bound to be corruptible and a power cocky son of a bitch.

...just turned neutral because of your "in the end map makers will never be happy" sentence ...i can see that's the truth

Thats the way governing works ...everyone gets to be controlled by someone and everyone is controlled by rules. Situation now is that no one can control the mods ...what you guys want is that no one can control the map makers.

Control each other, bound by rules.

Написано от Guest, 15.01.2015 at 12:54

Sorry if I am wrong, but are you saying that mapmakers and mods should team up?

Написано от Guest, 15.01.2015 at 12:53

It says you cannot limit someone's ability to play maps even when they play by the rules, that's where it says you cannot ban people for SILLY reasons.